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Old 05-31-2010, 03:24 AM   #151
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wildegirl05, I'll answer your post tomorrow, it's time to for me.



but thanks for the ideas in advance
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:30 AM   #152
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so gonzalo eats a 6 month ban based in part on something that happened a year and half ago but since apparently no current mods were around back when this other poster had his double accounts, he gets away with it?
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:21 AM   #153
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Link Mage, as long as I know (I might be wrong, but that's what I've been told) started several threads before matches were over (vcash hungry). So it's quite different.
Perhaps I have overlooked something here but I don't quite understand why you don't know this for sure. Isn't the info on why that particular poster got banned for what particular reason available in the mod forum (preferably going back long enough, with the posts in question copied to the mod forum)? How can you be consistent if decisions made are that vague to certain mods?

Well, here's hoping for more transparancy.
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Unbelievable the amount of BS here to justify the unjustifiable
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:00 PM   #155
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i agree it's subjective but i think the subjectivity must be limited as much as possible.




i appreciate how hard it can be but really, i think you'll be doing yourselves a HUGE service by being more objective. i know i'm saying this from the outside but please borrow from the common law system's ideals by setting up guidelines, setting precedent, sticking to precedent and making narrow exceptions. maybe you can create guidelines for categories of insults, categories of harassment etc. there will be gray areas and outliers but you should really aim to minimize those if possible. it's subjective and human is not helpful when looking at you guys critically from the outside.

i hope that didn't sound condescending, or if it did, it was not the intention. i just want to minimize the frustration for both parties. your (collective) lack of consistency has been a pet peeve for a while now.



kudos indeed to raginglamb but maybe it can be even better if you got some feedback from us about transparency. if you listen to suggestions, you'll make people more empowered in the rules of the forum. possibly they'll follow better. hopefully at the very least, they will feel less angry about your use/abuse of power.

transparency will also force you to be more consistent. nothing like accountability to make things more efficient, at least in theory right?

i hope you'll (collectively) think about these things. and thank you again for explaining things. i learned a lot about your process.
Good points I agree that it can be improved and more transparent. We are currently discussing some things and hopefully soon we will announce some changes.

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so gonzalo eats a 6 month ban based in part on something that happened a year and half ago but since apparently no current mods were around back when this other poster had his double accounts, he gets away with it?
His current ban was because of the abusive rep, the length of the ban was settled based on his previous ban. Nothing wrong with it. We are not making a witch hunt here and checking what happened many years ago.

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Perhaps I have overlooked something here but I don't quite understand why you don't know this for sure. Isn't the info on why that particular poster got banned for what particular reason available in the mod forum (preferably going back long enough, with the posts in question copied to the mod forum)? How can you be consistent if decisions made are that vague to certain mods?

Well, here's hoping for more transparancy.
I think I was too careful in my message, what I meant is that it has been commented by mods and by posters in other threads (chat threads) that he prematurely started threads several times (result threads before a match was over). I don't recall myself deleting any thread of him becaus of this (I recall I deleted troll threads started by him, though), but maybe it happened, we have a lot of work in General Messages and we can't remember all our actions.
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Unbelievable the amount of BS here to justify the unjustifiable



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I wonder what the collective team of mods will say now
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^^ The TT thread is discussing a case involving Adam, myself and Evita. By failing to mention either Adam or I, but very deliberatly saying that he doesn't think Evita is a cheat, FiBeR has accused clearly Adam of cheating. Adam is understandly upset.

Adam is much more sensitive than FiBeR.
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cheating in TT is nothing new though
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I don't know, maybe it's just me, but maybe people shouldn't take this website so seriously. Take a step back from the computer, go outside, play actual tennis, talk to people in real life...
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I don't know, maybe it's just me, but maybe people shouldn't take this website so seriously. Take a step back from the computer, go outside, play actual tennis, talk to people in real life...
That's incredibly rude and patronising. You've been a great help, thanks
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That's incredibly rude and patronising. You've been a great help, thanks
Don't know how, Linda. If people are getting so worked up by a tennis website, then maybe they should take a step back.
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Don't know how, Linda. If people are getting so worked up by a tennis website, then maybe they should take a step back.
There are very few people getting "so worked up". It's not unreasonable for people who post here and are part of the MTF community to expect to be treated fairly by the posters who moderate the forums.

Perhaps you should have worded your first post as you worded the above, without the snide "go play tennis, talk to real people" remarks.
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