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Old 02-22-2010, 07:33 AM   #1
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Killing civillians by mistake, that is.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/as...ike/index.html

The UN is somehow silent regarding this incidents. Not one word.

I'm sure the last thing the NATO forces wanted was to hurt civillians, but - the same thing is true regarding Israeli soldiors.

But somehow - The UN is silent, the Arab world is silent, and no new Goldstone is crying out foul and 'war crimes' and writing no report.

So, what's true? The lives of Afgan children worth less than the lives of Palestinians childen? Or maybe Israel just a more convienet target than NATO?

And BTW, unlike Israel, the USO and NATO have no 'self-defense' explantion, so shouldn't what they are doing be considered worse?

Discuss. A serious discussion please. No flames.
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I think everyone is too bussy discussing Mossad's assesination squads as to pay any attention to that...
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I think everyone is too bussy discussing Mossad's assesination squads as to pay any attention to that...
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Lets face it, unless Israel is involved, nobody gives a fuck.
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they could do a CSI:Miami,Las Vegas or New York like version of Mossad, they are a highly efficent crew I must say...

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Lets face it, unless Israel is involved, nobody gives a fuck.
You face it - unless Israel is involved, you don't care.
Bet you never heard of Richard Goldstone (from your opening post) before Gaza war, although that prick is involved in dirty business for long time now.
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Killing civillians by mistake, that is.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/as...ike/index.html

The UN is somehow silent regarding this incidents. Not one word.

I'm sure the last thing the NATO forces wanted was to hurt civillians, but - the same thing is true regarding Israeli soldiors.

But somehow - The UN is silent, the Arab world is silent, and no new Goldstone is crying out foul and 'war crimes' and writing no report.

So, what's true? The lives of Afgan children worth less than the lives of Palestinians childen? Or maybe Israel just a more convienet target than NATO?

And BTW, unlike Israel, the USO and NATO have no 'self-defense' explantion, so shouldn't what they are doing be considered worse?

Discuss. A serious discussion please. No flames.

Don't be sure.
NATO kills civilians PURPOSELY, but in Newspeak that is called "collateral damage" While all victims of NATO's enemy are victims of "massacre", :"atrocities", "genocide".
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You face it - unless Israel is involved, you don't care.
Bet you never heard of Richard Goldstone (from your opening post) before Gaza war, although that prick is involved in dirty business for long time now.


Don't be sure.
NATO kills civilians PURPOSELY, but in Newspeak that is called "collateral damage" While all victims of NATO's enemy are victims of "massacre", :"atrocities", "genocide".
Ah, slight difference. I care what's going on with Israel more because that's where I live. Just like I expect a Palestinian to care more about Gaza and the west bank than people in Afganistan.

What I fail to understand is why the UN/the middle east seem to care more about the civillians from Palestine than civillians from Afganistan.

The main difference is that in one conflict Israel is involved, and not in the others.

Double standard? Where is the UN report who blame NATO of war crimes because civillians got hurt?
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Yes, double standards. You are stating the obvious.

But you fail to accept that double standards didn't come up for the first time these days (not even if the same participants are included - NATO, UN, Goldstone).

Double standards happened many times before in non-Israel related cases which you don't know or you don't care about.
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This post isn't about all the wrongs in the world since the beginning of time (or the 20th century). I'm aware there are more, trust me.

You want to bring it up, do so - and I'll respond (and perhaps learn about things I haven't known about before).
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They should learn from Israel about avoiding innocent casualties.
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awwww poor ickle Israel. must be so hard for them to listen to inconsequential international crticism that has zero effect on them or their murderous occupation in gaza. yes, inconsequential. you seem to ignore that crucial fact.

don't you remember the threads about the Islamist group in the UK planning to picket soldiers funerals in protest at the murder of civilans in Afghanistan? there are protests against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan all the time.

Like Zeleni said, it's not that no one cares when Israel isn't involved, it's that you don't.

Nato are incompetent pricks who haven't got the slightest clue about what they're even trying to do in Afghanistan if you really want to hear some crticism. And negligence with such consequences is undoubtedly a crime.

You're point about Israel being an easier target for the UN is obviously correct given the huge overlap in Nato and UN membership.
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as in What Not to Do 101?
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because the Arab world is more concerned with the situation in Gaza and the crimes Israel commit daily in Palestine than elsewhere, you worry about your 1st neighbor more than your 40th neighbor.
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