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Old 06-02-2010, 01:29 PM   #346
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Some extra worries for whoever needs them:

Djokovic is starting to become a serious threat again to Federer's top 2 ranking streak after Wimbledon. This streak started November 17, 2003 and may be one of his most impressive records. It is guaranteed to extend to 346 weeks (mid-Wimbledon). In the 2008 year end rankings Djokovic was only 10 points behind Federer!

As for now, Djokovic will have 6165 points after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains in RG (by winning QF or even more) Queens(does he play?) and Wimbledon. Federer will have 6390 after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains at Halle and Wimbledon. This means that, if Djokovic loses in the RG semis to Nadal (the most likely scenario), Federer must outperform Djokovic on grass to stay ahead of Djokovic. This should be no problem though, normally.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:04 PM   #347
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As for now, Djokovic will have 6165 points after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains in RG (by winning QF or even more) Queens(does he play?) and Wimbledon. Federer will have 6390 after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains at Halle and Wimbledon. This means that, if Djokovic loses in the RG semis to Nadal (the most likely scenario), Federer must outperform Djokovic on grass to stay ahead of Djokovic. This should be no problem though, normally.
Yes, I already noticed that... it shows all the more how fast things can change. Nothing is ever a 'given', even the more because, in contrary to popular opinion, Djokovic CAN play on grass - he's already made a Queens- and a Halle-final. There are quite a few contendors for the grass titles out there now, too, it's not just the FedalDick-story anymore.

Brrr. Thanks for the nightmare.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:05 PM   #348
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i don't know if i'd really mind that much if fed dropped to #3. it might give him some extra motivation to do well in the smaller tournaments.

of course, i say that now, but i'll probably break something if he does drop to #3.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:10 PM   #349
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may be Roger will lost his NO.1 next, but so what? He can get it again!!
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:17 PM   #350
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Some extra worries for whoever needs them:

Djokovic is starting to become a serious threat again to Federer's top 2 ranking streak after Wimbledon. This streak started November 17, 2003 and may be one of his most impressive records. It is guaranteed to extend to 346 weeks (mid-Wimbledon). In the 2008 year end rankings Djokovic was only 10 points behind Federer!

As for now, Djokovic will have 6165 points after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains in RG (by winning QF or even more) Queens(does he play?) and Wimbledon. Federer will have 6390 after Wimbledon, plus anything he gains at Halle and Wimbledon. This means that, if Djokovic loses in the RG semis to Nadal (the most likely scenario), Federer must outperform Djokovic on grass to stay ahead of Djokovic. This should be no problem though, normally.
djokovic was eliminated by melzer
however, Federer has no chance for this record ......
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:45 PM   #351
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why is everyone so worried about this record? if he doesn't break it now, i fully believe roger can come back and regain his #1 ranking in the near future.
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why is everyone so worried about this record? if he doesn't break it now, i fully believe roger can come back and regain his #1 ranking in the near future.
Good attitude to have

And even if he doesn't, although I probably wouldn't have said this had he achieved it, it's not the most impressive record in the world given that it also depends on the performance of your peers. Roger had the largest weighted ranking lead percentage at some point I think, anyway. In some ways losing it could be indicative of the strength of the competition (basically Rafa)! And at the end of the day, it's only one week's difference. Sampras may have this record but having held it for five and a half years is the most important thing, not whether anyone has held it for slightly longer I feel.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:59 PM   #353
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i don't know if i'd really mind that much if fed dropped to #3. it might give him some extra motivation to do well in the smaller tournaments.

of course, i say that now, but i'll probably break something if he does drop to #3.
Indeed, personally at this stage in his career I'm not worried about Roger's ranking if it isn't #1. I mean if it isn't #1 then I don't care if it's #2, #3, 4, 20, 58...etc...if it's not #1 then I don't really care what it is. I completely accept that he won't be #1 all the time til the day he retires & I expect he will someday start to go down the rankings as he gets older & loses more often even at slams etc, but once he isn't #1 then it doesn't really matter to me what actual ranking he holds. Hopefully for a while it'll still be within reach of gaining #1 back at some point but overall at that point I'd just be looking at specific performances at important times of the year ie:slams & not placing much importance on general yearly performance for ranking. I mean if one year he finished a year not ranked 1 or 2 but won Wimbledon, I'd be happy. I still think he has a few more years left fighting for & around #1 so we're not quite at this stage yet, I don't think anyway, but one day down the line it'll be like that (maybe when he's in his 30s - assuming he keeps with his plan of playing to mid30s). Kind of like how Agassi was in his last years, not #1 but always a threat to the top players & someone you wouldn't want to play.
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may be Roger will lost his NO.1 next, but so what? He can get it again!!
definitly! I'm pretty relaxed about the record because I'm very confident that Fed will get the No.1 back anyway and surpass Pete.
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definitly! I'm pretty relaxed about the record because I'm very confident that Fed will get the No.1 back anyway and surpass Pete.
It's not that easy and it's actually highly unlikely he gets it back until after the USO, maybe in China. For Federer to get back the #1, he would have to win both Wimbledon and the USO, do well in Canada and Cincy, and have Nadal not win any titles and lose in at least a few SF's and QF's. Even then, Federer can only get a few hundred points on Nadal.

There's a 90% chance that Nadal will end the year at #1.
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There's a 90% chance that Nadal will end the year at #1.


OK...optimist me is wishing for that 10% chance.But Que sera, sera...................

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OK...optimist me is wishing for that 10% chance.But Que sera, sera...................

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It's correct, and it's well-deserved to Rafa.

Roger threw in his own windows with that absymal Spring season performance of his.
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It's correct, and it's well-deserved to Rafa.

Roger threw in his own windows with that absymal Spring season performance of his.
The two early losses in IW and Miami hurt his chances as far as surpassing Pete for the all-time number of weeks at #1 goes since he had s small window of opportunity to get there , but as for #1 at season's end, it's just been Nadal's dominant play on clay. If he wins against Soderling, Nadal will have amassed 5000 points on clay (two slam titles and a slam runner-up is worth 5200 points for comparison's sake) , a huge, HUGE total to overcome. The only way such a huge clay point total can be overcome by some other player is if they amass a nice chunk of points on clay (1500+) and then do very, very well on hard and grass courts, something Federer has done the past 6 years. Doing well at some tournaments and then not at others isn't good enough when going up against 5000 clay season chunk of points.
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The two early losses in IW and Miami hurt his chances as far as surpassing Pete for the all-time number of weeks at #1 goes since he had s small window of opportunity to get there , but as for #1 at season's end, it's just been Nadal's dominant play on clay. If he wins against Soderling, Nadal will have amassed 5000 points on clay (two slam titles and a slam runner-up is worth 5200 points for comparison's sake) , a huge, HUGE total to overcome. The only way such a huge clay point total can be overcome by some other player is if they amass a nice chunk of points on clay (1500+) and then do very, very well on hard and grass courts, something Federer has done the past 6 years. Doing well at some tournaments and then not at others isn't good enough when going up against 5000 clay season chunk of points.
Thanks Alex. It was obvious already to me that Roger threw away his chances during this year's Spring season. There's a 4000-points swing at stake at Wimbledon alone, and your post only adds more weight to 'what's up'.

I will make a claim here: If Roger manages to get the YE #1 ranking this year, I will fangirl Almugro till at least 2012.

Seriously: whatever. Roger has already made his mark, anything else he'll be able to add to his tally, are just cherries on the cake.
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If Soderling happens to win RG...How does that affect the ranking points?
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