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Old 01-31-2010, 05:45 PM   #1
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Default What would satisfy the haters?

What would Fed have to do to persuade them that he's the GOAT? It seems to me that they want to rig the argument against the guy:

Federer loses ---> Proof that he sucks

Federer wins easily ---> Proof of a weak era, he sucks

Federer wins after a struggle ---> Lucky, the Slam fell into his lap, he sucks

Let's look at his career.

- When he was barely out of nappies he beat Sampras at Wimbledon and bagelled Agassi.

- He then easily crushed his own era, destroying the careers of Roddick and Hewitt (the latter having dominated Sampras).

- Now he's breezing past guys much younger than him.

So we seem to be talking about THREE "weak eras" here, not just one.

Yes, he's had a few problems with Nadal. Well, quite a lot of problems actually. But who's perfect? Not Nadal himself, who always loses to the same players who get dominated by Fed. And not dull ballbasher Sampras either.

So the question is: What does Federer have to do for you guys to stop hating on his achievements?
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:53 PM   #2
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

He should stop killing the ATP Tour with his consistency and passion for the game.
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:54 PM   #3
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

Awesome post. That SetSampras guy is pathetic with his arguments in trying to belittle federer in another thread.

When a guy who is 28 looks like he hardly broke a sweat after 3 reasonably long sets in heavy conditions and the 222year old looks winded, one should know you are seeing a genius at work.

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Old 01-31-2010, 06:00 PM   #4
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

I think Federer will ultimately go down in history as the GOAT.

Don't pay much attention to MTF.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:00 PM   #5
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

The haters will be satisfied once he stops winning and guess what Federer just ain't giving them that
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

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When a guy who is 28 looks like he hardly broke a sweat after 3 reasonably long sets in heavy conditions and the 222year old looks winded
Almost unnatural, one could say.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:02 PM   #7
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

I would love to see Nadal back healthy for the FO and Fed beat him in the final. That might finally shut the Fedbashers up, once and for all.
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

Federer has played against 3 different generations (if you can call them that) and killed them all. Nothing will ever satisfy the haters. If Sampras had been a GOAT Becker, Agassi and whoever else played in the 90's would have won far fewer slams but because his only talent was serving and volleying that was never going to happen. Sampras fans are beyond pathetic. Jealousy is a disease.
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

For me, he already is.

Now taking out a fit Nadal in RG would be a bonus for him, but not really essential anymore. He can be greater, he hasn't been 100% perfect, because no one is. But the discussion wether there is someone in the Open Era with greater achievements is dead months ago, I think. And comparing him to Rosewall, Laver or Gonzalez is silly.
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

I don't care. It's funny watching the hatred sometimes. They are really just hurt individuals looking for some way to feel better.

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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

As someone said - it must really, really suck following tennis and being a Fed hater. Especially when he hits a patch of bad form and gets your hopes up that he's done - but then, oh no, he's back again winning yet more Slams. I suppose you have the consolation that it can't go on forever.
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Awesome post. That SetSampras guy is pathetic with his arguments in trying to belittle federer in another thread.
His posts concerning Roger in the past were pretty much level-headed. Watch him when Fed passes Pete for most weeks at #1.
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So we seem to be talking about THREE "weak eras" here, not just one.
4, or perhaps 5.

Sampras/Agassi (1968-1972)

Rafter/Moya (1973-1977)

Federer/Hewitt/Roddick/Safin (1978-1982)

Nadal/Djokovic/Murray (1983-1987)

Del Potro (1988-1992).
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Default Re: What would satisfy the haters?

Federer, even in the eyes of someone like myself who feels he's a bullying ego maniac, cannot deny: Federer is BY FAR the best player of all time...achievement-wise. When ranking the top players of all time, there are many factors and things to consider, but after all is said and done: Federer is #1. Case closed.

What would satisfy me would be humility and not resorting to gamesmanship and cheating toward the end of his amazing career.
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