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Old 12-12-2009, 08:36 PM   #46
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I agree it is out of this world, in some never-never land.
linguistically the guardian is the perfect match for you btw. its reporters have the same kind of writing style you have.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:58 PM   #47
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linguistically the guardian is the perfect match for you btw. its reporters have the same kind of writing style you have.
That worries me, but I prefer the style of the Sunday Telegraph - a pun in every headline. I don't remember humour in the Grauniad.

PS: I always check my posts and edit any typos. I suggest you google ''Grauniad'' if you don't already know.
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i know the grauniad thing (even though i've never really noticed it, but then again, i only follow their sports coverage). but i was going for the latent irony. if you don't remember humour in the guardian, you've never checked out their sports writers. if the guardian isn't witty to you, german media must be your guaranteed death. yeah, that stereotype still very much fits.
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Yes, a sports writer covering the 2002 world cup and never mentioning quarterfinalists USA was funny. (I will read a few recent web pages to find the humour)

But seriously, I was brought up on the Observer. Maybe not funny, but light years ahead of US sports writing. The Observer (and most other British weeklies) took you through the game and analysed what happened. In the US they give the score, ignore what happened in the game and immediately go to who is being traded or which manager is being fired.
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Both they and the BBC are horrid trash.

American papers are even trashier.

I am so disgusted with our English-language media.


I prefer Timesonline out of all the news outlets. Mostly because it covers the sport I care about. I do however agree that the English media in general are pathetic.

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"liberal" is a confused outdated notion. There's a big difference between liberal in the social and liberal in the economic sense. Those who are one tend not to be the other.
Exactly. I prefer Political Compass' way of presentation:


It also has a nice quiz, although like all quizzes it's generally a bit off.

The problem I have with true libertarianism is that it basically calls for anarchy - something which cannot co-exist with civilization.
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yeah, not wise to use Europe as blanket term here as with most other debates. Thatcher certainly isn't referred to as a liberal in the UK too often for example
She was a total free marketer economically and socially conservative, but definitely no liberal.
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Same result in the compass than 2 years ago when I did it first. Apparently Im a Centre-Right Libertarian.

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this is cool stuff. heres mine.

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Political compass, good quiz.
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I (not necessarily buddyholly) fall in the same square as Jolan. I shall take two aspirin and repeat the test in the morning.
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Set of questions not the best, there have been some better versions earlier. In fact with other sets Im located considerably more on the libertarian side (about 8) and noticeably more on the right (about 6)
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This is mine political compass according to the test



damn, I don't know how to post it


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economic left/right: -7.00
social libertarian/authoritarian : -6.51
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Replace "liberal" with "lefto-pinko" and the thread title makes perfect sense. Very accurate too.

I have no idea what liberal is suppose to mean these days anyway. So-called Liberal Democrats in the UK are even more nonsensical than Labour. But socialists love their user-friendly terms.
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Exactly. I prefer Political Compass' way of presentation:


It also has a nice quiz, although like all quizzes it's generally a bit off.
This is fun, last time I did it was back in school.

In fact, we should start a new thread for this.


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The problem I have with true libertarianism is that it basically calls for anarchy - something which cannot co-exist with civilization.
In theory it may seem that way but as the 20th century showed us, the authoritarian end of the spectrum is the one that starts with anarchy.
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Replace "liberal" with "lefto-pinko" and the thread title makes perfect sense. Very accurate too.

I have no idea what liberal is suppose to mean these days anyway. So-called Liberal Democrats in the UK are even more nonsensical than Labour. But socialists love their user-friendly terms.
Political jargon tends to be somewhat Orwellian, especially when applied by leftists. Again, Jimnik, and I don't know whether you've read the particular post in which I first stated this, but it seems as though modern liberals are on a perpetual search for new euphemisms in order to mask their true identity.

Are socialists in the United Kingdom willing to be recognized as such, or is there a myriad of euphemisms intended to mislead the public ?
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