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Old 12-10-2009, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default 2010 PAW Managers Thread - 2 managers needed for next week, last tournaments

Welcome in the 2010 PAW Managers Thread!

As stated many times during the last 2 seasons, the number of managers has been decreasing fastly and the possibility of the game ending became real, so we are inviting other players to manage tournaments during the 2010 season. If we get 5% of the total number of players helping it will already be great. It's an easy task and it doesn't demand many time specially at the smaller tournaments. Excell sheets are uploaded at the end of this post and you can ask any questions in this thread. As well as saying which tournament you want to manage, which you can do right now

2010 PAW SEASON

Quote:
> Top managers: sdtoot, hallso, -Evita- and jrm
> allowed to take any mandatory tournaments + 1 non-mandatory per month


> Other managers
> allowed to take any mandatory tournaments + 2 non-mandatory per month


* a manager can't take tournaments in straight weeks, being or not a top manager;

* if no manager takes a tournament until 1 day before the main draw is released, following the rules above, the tournament is cancelled, the players commited to this tournament are moved to the other(s) of the week (if there's any) and the circuit moves on.
PAW tournaments and managers (red means played)

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JAN 4
Doha jrm
Chennai sdtoot
Brisbane Caio_Brasil

JAN 11
Sydney Boarder35m
Auckland Wojtek

JAN 18
Australian Open hallso

FEB 1
Santiago ostm89
Zagreb jrm
Johannesburg Rik.

FEB 8
Costa do Sauipe Caio_Brasil
Rotterdam chrono
San Jose Barlos

FEB 15
Marseille greatkingrat
Memphis Action Jackson
Buenos Aires Wojtek

FEB 22
Acapulco Barlos
Dubai sdtoot
Delray Beach Aenea

MAR 8
Indian Wells sdtoot

MAR 22
Miami Wojtek

APR 5
Houston Aenea
Casablanca greatkingrat

APR 12
Monte-Carlo sdtoot

APR 19
Barcelona hallso

APR 26
Rome jrm

MAY 3
Estoril ostm89
Belgrade Aenea
Munich KoOlMaNsTeVeN

MAY 10
Madrid hallso

MAY 17
Nice KoOlMaNsTeVeN

MAY 24
Roland Garros sdtoot

JUN 7
Halle jrm
London/Queen's Club Aenea

JUN 14
’s-Hertogenbosch qczi
Eastbourne sdtoot

JUN 21
Wimbledon greatkingrat

JUL 5
Newport Caio_Brasil

JUL 12
Bastad Wojtek
Stuttgart sdtoot

JUL 19
Atlanta jervisjames
Hamburg hallso

JUL 26
Los Angeles Caio_Brasil
Gstaad jrm
Umag Hamstory

AUG 2
Washinghton Aenea

AUG 9
Toronto Wojtek

AUG 16
Cincinnati hallso

AUG 23
New Haven sdtoot

AUG 30
US Open hallso

SEP 20
Metz sdtoot
Bucharest jrm

SEP 27
Kuala Lumpur Aenea
Bangkok Wojtek

OCT 4
Beijing KoOlMaNsTeVeN
Tokyo TankingTheSet

OCT 11
Shanghai Aenea

OCT 18
Stockholm jrm
Moscow Hamstory

OCT 25
Montpellier KoOlMaNsTeVeN
Vienna
St. Petersburg sdtoot

NOV 1
Basel jrm
Valencia Aenea

NOV 8
Paris hallso

NOV 21
London sdtoot

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PAW scoring points calculation

Code:
Formula:

PLAYER'S A ranking pts: A
PLAYER'S B ranking pts: B

Player's A PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*B / A) or 10*SQRT(B)/SQRT(A)
Player's B PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*A / B) or 10*SQRT(A)/SQRT(B)
(SQRT=square root)

EXAMPLE:

Madrid 2007 Final:

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David

FEDERER, Roger rank pts: 7355
NALBANDIAN, David rank pts: 1195

FEDERER, Roger PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*1195/7355) = 4.03 = 4
NALBANDIAN, David PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*7355/1195) = 24.81 = 25

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David ..........(4-25)

Note:

1. The ranking list to be used for PAW scoring points is the ranking at the time of the draw,
   normally it's the previous week's ranking (but in Indian Wells and Miami case 
   the draw comes out AFTER the new ranking is released)

2. Round off all scoring pts to the nearest integer, eg. 10.49 = 10 but 10.50 = 11.

3. In case of unranked player or a player who has less than 40 ranking pts, 
   he is allocated 40 pts for the calculation of PAW scoring points.

For beginning manager


All managers, please don't forget about the name format in ranking table which I've mentioned here
Name has exactly 23 symbols (letters)
,
thank you



ZIP file includes simple template excel sheets for 13, 16, 26-picks paw and special Evita's Templates, it can be easy modified by inserting (or deleting) additional lines and columns.

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Old 12-11-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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First in and claiming Doha (more suitable than Aussie tournaments but i also know more players will decide to play here)
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Thanks a lot jrm

Waiting for other volunteers
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I am away January, so definitely no tournaments in that month.
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Put me down for Chennai. Thanks.
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Shaun

Now we only need a manager for Brisbane to complete the first week.
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2 weeks for the new season to start, any volunteer for Brisbane?
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some time ago, I propose Shaun, that few "top" managers can manage only mandatory tournaments
just to check if the game can exist without them
what do you think?

btw I will take Melbourne
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The ideia is good, we just would have to define who the top managers are and when we would start with this rule.

Thanks a lot for taking the GS btw, your work is really much appreciated
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I thought about Caio, sdtoot, hallso and Evita, robuś if the last two want/have time to manage
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Here's an idea that could work in my opinion:

First of all, we have to decide who the top managers are and we must look at some numbers (I did a quick research, there may be errors; these are the players who managed more than 1 tournament last year):

-sdtoot: 14 (2 GS, 3 MS and the WTF);
-hallso: 8 (1 GS, 2 MS);
-jrm: 8 (0 GS, 0 MS);
--Evita-: 7 (1 GS, 1 MS);
-Caio_Brasil: 5 (0 GS, 0 MS);
-Boarder35m: 4 (0 GS, 0 MS);
-nkp2: 4 (0 GS, 0 MS);
-greatkingrat: 2 (0 GS, 1 MS);
-Aguante_El_Gato: 2 (0 GS, 1 MS);
-TankingTheSet: 2 (0 GS, 1 MS);
-Action Jackson: 2 (0 GS, 0 MS).


sdtoot, hallso and -Evita- are clearly the ones who are used to take the big tournaments, which are those with more than 60/70 players signed up. These are, without a doubt, top managers.

Then we have myself, jrm (didn't notice you managed 8 tournaments, thanks a lot!), Boarder35m and nkp2 with 4+ tournaments managed but all non-mandatory. Some of those were the only tournament of the week so it's not much different from managing a mandatory one. In my specific case I just took the tournaments that were probably going to be cancelled, in the last minute.

In my opinion the top managers would be sdtoot, hallso, -Evita- and I would include jrm here as well.

The defined top managers would be able to take 1 ATP 250/500 per month + any mandatory he/she wants. Otherwise, I really don't think we would have enough managers to all the tournaments. Just check 2009 managers thread and you'll see that there were many cases of players managing straight weeks.

Considering that the busiest month is February (12 tournaments, all non-mandatory), if each of the top managers took 1 tournament there would be 8 left for other players to take. The other months aren't that busy and tend to have 5-7 non-mandatory tournaments.

For those who are not top managers, there would be a limit of 2 non-mandatory per month + the mandatory ones.

In resume, that's the proposed idea:

Quote:
> Top managers: sdtoot, hallso, -Evita- and jrm
> allowed to take any mandatory tournaments + 1 non-mandatory per month


> Other managers
> allowed to take any mandatory tournaments + 2 non-mandatory per month


* a manager can't take tournaments in straight weeks, being or not a top manager;

* if no manager takes a tournament until 1 day before the main draw is released, following the rules above, the tournament is cancelled, the players commited to this tournament are moved to the other(s) of the week (if there's any) and the circuit moves on.
If there's agreement from board members, other managers and any regular players who visit this thread we can start the year using these rules already. I would keep track of everything on this issue.
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I agree
also I will add my own "schedule": 2GS (AO + one of mid-season), 3 atp1000 (probably Miami, Paris and one more) and NOT more than 2 smaller, including none in February
we will see if there are enough volunteers to keep all 12 tournaments in play

of course real life can change my plans, as always

edit: btw I put managers achievments in 2008-09 here
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I ask players not to bump the old managers thread again, otherwise this won't be seen and we won't decide what to do by the start of the season.

Also we need a manager for Brisbane. I want to take a 2nd week tournament but if nobody takes Brisbane I'm up for it.
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I can manage a 2nd week tournament as well, but I´m allready managing TT in 1st week
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Thanks Alex, just choose the one you prefer

What about the managers rules, what do you think about it?
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