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Old 11-17-2009, 05:08 AM   #76
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OK, but you did suggest that you would not expect to find a Fort Hood thread on a tennis forum.

And I was not at all asking for the thread to be reinstated. I was dumbfounded by Peta Pan's logic, whereby making offensive posts in a thread is good reason to delete a thread. She made no mention of punishment for the offending posters. I don't know if that ever happened before.
So I suppose I was asking what prompted her to pick this thread for deletion and not those threads with an equal or greater content of offending posts. Seems to me she left the door open by setting a precedent whereby an offending post in a thread is enough to delete the entire thread.

So all in all I think she is damaging MTF. When she states that she applies the rules of general messages to non-tennis, she leaves me dumbfounded, given that she thinks that posts of a political nature are akin to time bombs and should be avoided, so as not to offend. How could she be a moderator of a non-tennis forum with views like this? Of course, the same rule says that bad language is not allowed and she chooses to ignore this part.

You suggest I walk away. That may happen, but first I would rather raise my voice in defense of the forum and try not have it destroyed by the kind of selective politically correct thinking that would silence just about everyone.
I'd like to point out that this is most certainly not the first time that something like this has happened so I most certainly set no such precedent.

I'd also like to mention that the reason I used the General Messages rule is because I'm not quite sure why it was not in the Non Tennis ones too... political threads are not in GM so there is no real reason to have the time bomb reference in GM rules There is also no rule against political threads. The time bomb reference is just stating the fact that there is a chance that it may become troublesome and have to be removed at some point in that situation.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:51 AM   #77
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And counting to 1,000,000 in increments of one is?

Maybe you meant the thread was of no importance to you. And that may have been what PP was thinking.

Namely: a terrorist attack within the US is not the kind of thing we little, fun-loving MTFers should be concerned about. Better to think of the bigger issues, like Leyton Hewitt's dick size.
To be fair, the baiting nature of the thread (blaming other posters of political correctness and naming the incident a terrorist attack when the verdict is still out) was trollish for a start. The OP has the responsibility to keep all responses clean and on the subject but instead you made a trollish response to my troll post and the thread was heading for more trolling, mostly by me and probably some by Chinaski.

I wouldn't have deleted your thread myself, but I admit I find the decision to remove it reasonable.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:13 AM   #78
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To be fair, the baiting nature of the thread (blaming other posters of political correctness and naming the incident a terrorist attack when the verdict is still out) was trollish for a start. The OP has the responsibility to keep all responses clean and on the subject but instead you made a trollish response to my troll post and the thread was heading for more trolling, mostly by me and probably some by Chinaski.

I wouldn't have deleted your thread myself, but I admit I find the decision to remove it reasonable.
completely agree, apart from the line in bold; the opening poster has no more responsibility than any other poster
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completely agree, apart from the line in bold; the opening poster has no more responsibility than any other poster
This depends on what sort of thread is started imo. The OP in debate threads functions as the discussion leader which to me means they set the tone by example, structure the discussion and keep it on topic.
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I can not believe what you are saying.
Therein seems to lie the problem.

Which seems to be entirely yours.

This thread title is badly worded, condescending and clearly aimed only to provoke. It's a testament to your forum mods patience that they're still indulging you.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:05 PM   #81
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I have assumed for a long time now that "Mens Tennis Forums" is a tennis forum (and it's not just the name, but the extensive discussions of tennis and tennis players that gave me this impression). You are now telling me that it is a "non-tennis forum." I confess this is the first time i've heard this and i am flummoxed. If it is not a tennis forum, then I guess that explains your determination, but it contains a bizarrely enormous amount of tennis discussion for a non-tennis forum.
I don't want to belabour the point, but I think it was you that first failed to distinguish between a ''non-tennis forum'' and a ''non-tennis section'' in the menstennisforums site.

So let me put it another way. Are you flummoxed to learn that there is a section for discussing non-tennis subjects at this site?
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This is what happens when you get spoiled bratty kids..they think they deserve or are entitled to all this shit. Just give it a rest buddy, you should talk about ft hood with your friends if you have any..
So you think that the subject of Fort Hood is not suitable for a non-tennis discussion board!!!

I can't say I have much respect for anyone who thinks they have a right to tell me what to discuss and where and with whom.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:16 PM   #83
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Therein seems to lie the problem.

Which seems to be entirely yours.

This thread title is badly worded, condescending and clearly aimed only to provoke. It's a testament to your forum mods patience that they're still indulging you.
Yes, it was clearly aimed to provoke. I think that is the way to stimulate interesting discussion. Maybe people don't care for that kind of stimulation anymore. So why can't they just say away from discussion threads if they don't feel up to the challenge?
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So you think that the subject of Fort Hood is not suitable for a non-tennis discussion board!!!

I can't say I have much respect for anyone who thinks they have a right to tell me what to discuss and where and with whom.
Sorry to break this to you, but I think there are zero people who have much respect for you on this board.

What I don't get is why do you want to talk politcs with tennis fans? Would you go to a politics board and talk about tennis? If you seriously would, maybe school is where you belong so you can get yourself an education and maybe a future?
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This is why I once asked for a BREAKING NEWS sort of forum, where people that want to discuss about political/economic/social issues can do it, no matter what ideologies they have...and keeping the NON TENNIS forum unpolluted, you know ....we need our silly threads gathered

I don't think there should be any type of discrimination on what to discuss about or not, or who is the thread starter. (of course I don't mean adult stuff, as porn) MTF does not get better by narrowing the type of discussions but expanding them.
Again, I think that these "controverted themes" might better have a special forum.
That's just my point of view.
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I don't want to belabour the point
i beg to differ

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Yes, it was clearly aimed to provoke. I think that is the way to stimulate interesting discussion. Maybe people don't care for that kind of stimulation anymore.
It is not difficult to stimulate discussion without provocation in this instance.

This is an open forum designed for you to ask questions. It seems to the moderators are willing to engage you without the petty jibes.

Which brings us back to what I was trying to imply earlier - if you haven't come into the situation with an open mind, why should anyone else ?

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So why can't they just say away from discussion threads if they don't feel up to the challenge?
Where is the evidence that people have ever been able to do this ?

This is not a board composed purely of mature adults that can hold a conversation and are resistant to provocation.

It's an internet message board full of people of all ages from all parts of the world with different sensitivities.

So what do you expect ?
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It's an internet message board full of people of all ages from all parts of the world with different sensitivities.

So what do you expect ?
I expect everyone to be able to discuss what they wish, within the bounds of good taste. I think too many posters here would like to limit the topics allowed, having decided that they know best what we all need to be talking about..
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What I don't get is why do you want to talk politcs with tennis fans? Would you go to a politics board and talk about tennis? If you seriously would, maybe school is where you belong so you can get yourself an education and maybe a future?
If you don't get it, then just move on and let the people who do get it have their conversations. You act like you are being forced to open every thread.
Where did you get your hands on my education resume? I admit I only have three degrees, including U of T. I like my future. My condo at lakefront is just what I wanted.

Ah, well it seems that that you still can not understand the very simple fact that the ''non-tennis'' section is there to discuss ''non-tennis'' topics with other tennis fans. People are free to open a thread about whatever they find interesting in life? I want to talk politics with people like PD, jolan, chinaski, action jackson, rrainer, cobalt, mirnyi, zirconek and anyone else that probably reads a newspaper in the mornings. Why do you find this so annoying? If you don't feel up to it, just pass on. I do this with a lot of thread titles.

Or let me refute your stance in another way. Pop music is a non-tennis topic. Do you get why tennis fans would want to talk music among themselves? Have you made any posts asking why tennis fans are discussing music on a tennis site? Or is it just politics that gets you all riled up, maybe because you have no contribution to make?
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I expect everyone to be able to discuss what they wish, within the bounds of good taste. I think too many posters here would like to limit the topics allowed, having decided that they know best what we all need to be talking about..
Too many posters ?

Seems to me the only people that limit topics of discussion are the moderators that enforce forum rules.

I can't imagine that constitutes a vast proportion of MTF posters and, to be fair, I would imagine that forum moderators have a better idea of the dynamics of the forum than you or I do.

So it makes sense that they're the ones setting the limits does it not ?
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