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Old 02-26-2010, 08:05 AM   #76
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At the same time, it is not the fault of Gael neither of Richard, that the Frecnh captain does the wrong choice.
But maybe i am too innocent, Forget should have called him and if he said no, who will know? nobody aparts them. And a newspaper could not think a second that Richard was called. This selection surprised everyone. When Forget said something like to win the DC, it is with a group, a group needs to act like a group, but by doing what he did, at least, France team is lucky that all the payers are friends...
But what he is doing it is completely anti team spirit
And why selected a player like Richard who is reconstructing himself and needs time, France is full of others players that are already in Europe
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:57 AM   #77
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I completely agree with Karine. I believe Richard and Forget talked about this beforehand, I can't see him discovering his selection in the breaking news on l'équipe.fr like we all did. He accepted, clearly thinking it was a good idea, otherwise we would have never heard about it. Can you imagine Forget threatening to tell to l'équipe Richard didn't want to go, and therefore Richard accepted in fear of seeing it all over the news ? It's a bit overdramatic.

So Richard wants to be there, period. I'm sure he knows better than any of us what is good for him. So what, if he wants to spend a week with his two best friends on tour, enjoying the DC atmosphere. All of them, save for Tsonga, were 5th men at some point, I can't remember the last time it happened to Richard, or if it ever did. Being a part of this group also means being there for the others, like Gaël in Romania, like Bennet in Holland Criticizing Forget's decision there is criticizing Richard's.

That said, the problem for me comes more from the fact that the situation looks a lot like last year, except that Forget made all a fuss about Gaël playing the week before in South America. In the end, they blamed more Gaël's choice than Gilles' disastrous performance for our loss. And now, the same happens with Richard, even though Forget asked Gaël not to go to Acapulco and he didn't, but Forget still selects Gasquet. Forget is very lucky that Gaël and Richard are such good friends, if it had been anyone else in that situation -say, PHM for example, or Mika, I don't think they're super close-, Gaël would have probably been very bitter about this, and understandably so.

If Forget is trying to create a team spirit, he's not doing it well. The more I see it, the more I think that if we win this damn cup one day, it won't be thanks to him, but thanks to the strong friendship between the players which will safely take them through Forget's little unvoluntary dramas.

At least, take comfort in the fact that if the German beat us, no one will blame Richard for once
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Wow, I'm really shocked about Richard being picked. Forget never ceases to amaze me. Although I would absolutely love to see Richard win a DC match right now, I hope he does not have to play. Maybe being with his friends for a few days will be good for him. They do seem to get along very well. Good luck France! Here's hoping we'll be able to see Richard and his friends win the DC someday, soon I hope!
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At least, take comfort in the fact that if the German beat us, no one will blame Richard for once
Well I am not sure, the journalists can still complain that Richard did not support enough the players, blabla like in US two years ago.
So Marion, please take the phone of Richard before the matches
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Can you imagine Forget threatening to tell to l'équipe Richard didn't want to go, and therefore Richard accepted in fear of seeing it all over the news ?
Unfortunately I can imagine everything with Forget. What did he do in Winston Salem?

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Criticizing Forget's decision there is criticizing Richard's.
I don't quite get the logic. But it's funny being criticised for criticising him. Normally I am criticised for finding excuses.

Did Richard have a choice? The whole of France would be over him if he had refused.

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Forget is very lucky that Gaël and Richard are such good friends,
I totally agree and I think I did point that out already.
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Haha, everything changes

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Unfortunately I can imagine everything with Forget. / Did Richard have a choice? The whole of France would be over him if he had refused.

He had all the reasons in the world to refuse (bad shape, in reconstruction, in South America and needing to be in Indian Wells next, other guys ready to go in his place, his presence not beeing as necessary as it used to be a few years ago.) It has nothing to do with what happened against the USA. If he had refused, I absolutely don't see why Forget would have told that to the press, and even if he had, no one would have blamed Richard, everyone recognises that he's not anymore the saviour of France and that there are a lot of other guys there now. He's there because he wants to, that seems obvious to me.

Do you really think that fear/blackmail relationship between Forget and Richie that you're describing is accurate, honestly ? Sorry, that seems a bit too mafia for me. Richard is an adult, not a victim, I very much doubt his actions are dictated by fear, or else it's not a lot of trust you place in him there.

If you want to believe Richard got tricked into accepting and he wants to be everywhere in the world but in Toulon next week end, fine. We all have different opinions.


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I totally agree and I think I did point that out already.
I was just reinforcing your point It wasn't aimed at you. I think Forget is stupid and clumsy and does a lot of things wrong, I already said it a lot; and this time it's justified by what I said about creating totally unnecessary drama between Richard and Gaël (thankfully it will be killed in the egg, thanks to their relationship.)

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Well I am not sure, the journalists can still complain that Richard did not support enough the players, blabla like in US two years ago. So Marion, please take the phone of Richard before the matches
Oh I will I happen to know that he has the numbers of Jo and Gaël in his phone, I shall get my hands on that too
I'll give him a pair of cheerleader's pompoms while I'm at it, no one will accuse him of not supporting enough then
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Oh I will I happen to know that he has the numbers of Jo and Gaël in his phone, I shall get my hands on that too
I'll give him a pair of cheerleader's pompoms while I'm at it, no one will accuse him of not supporting enough then

not pom poms, the pictures from last time he had pom poms are quite bad enough

As long as he is the 5th man, or if he's the 4th man but playing a non crucial match then thats fine with me. Good practise for IW. Hardcourts are good, playing with his friends would be good and being in a positive DC experience where he plays a small part in a team win would be great.
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About the Acapulco "controversy", perhaps Forget's decision to pick Richard as the 5th player was so last-minute that it was too late for him to withdraw from Acapulco
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what gasquet lost so that he could be in dc? dont know about that.
i can see that it might have thrown him off his game, which isnt hard

does anyone know if gasquet still lives next to forget in switzerland
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Do any of them spend much time in Switzerland or is it just a tax dodge?
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According to http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-dav...ments-ce-matin, they are practising right now.

Coupe Davis > Début des entraînements ce matin
Les 5 joueurs retenus par Guy Forget pour le premier tour de Coupe Davis débutent leur entraînement ce matin à Toulon. Programmés à 9 heures puis à 13 heures pour une séance de deux heures à chaque fois, les Bleus partageront les installations avec l'équipe allemande tout au long de la semaine. Le premier match de simple est prévu vendredi à 13h.
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Les Mousquetaires en garde à Toulon

Ils sont là les mousquetaires. Dans le Var. Pour une semaine à clôturer en apothéose. Avec un succès, partagé par le public, sur l'Allemagne.

Dès aujourd'hui, les Tsonga, Monfils, Llodra, Benneteau et Gasquet (remplaçant) prendront possession de leur palais toulonnais. Deux entraînements sont en effet programmés : le premier de 9 à 11 heures et le second de 13 à 16 heures.

L'occasion pour ces fils de bohème de se familiariser avec les lieux. La lumière. La surface. Sous le regard expert d'un Guy Forget naturellement méfiant.

Ne comptez pas sur le capitaine pour prendre ce premier tour à la légère. La Coupe Davis réserve toujours son lot de surprises.

Tirage au sort jeudi

Une coupe qui rentrera dans le dur vendredi dès 13 heures avec les deux simples. Suivront le double samedi à 14 h 50, puis les derniers simples dimanche dès 13 heures.

Avant, tradition oblige, les enfants auront eu le bonheur de croquer dans le gâteau mercredi. Ils seront environ 3 000 ce jour-là, à l'invitation de la Ligue Côte d'Azur, à pouvoir approcher leurs idoles.

Et c'est le lendemain de cette joyeuse fête que sera effectué le tirage au sort à l'opéra de Toulon à partir de 12 h 30.

Les dés seront alors jetés. Il ne restera plus qu'à faire tomber les masques sous l'arbitrage des Espagnols, MM. Mato et Molina et du Portugais, M. Alves.

Si les Bleus l'emportent, à noter qu'il défieront en quart de finale soit l'Espagne, soit la Suisse. Avec l'avantage, qui n'est pas mince, de recevoir à nouveau. Allez les petits !

Source: http://www.varmatin.com/ra/tennis/24...garde-a-toulon

Nothing of importance, just practise schedule on Monday and the schedule for the rest of the week, a kids' day on Wednesday and the draw on Thursday. BTW, I read elsewhere that the tie is sold out.

Edit: And another article http://www.varmatin.com/ra/toulon/24...on-pour-gagner with a video, Forget talking and the players practising, they even show the Germans briefly.
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First update on the FFT website http://www.fft.fr/Coupe-Davis/2010/F...magne/?id=5991 They asked to Hilaire to be the sparring partner.

Do we know the second single player for germany ? Becker i assume but Greul would be very funy
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The suspense is killing everybody, I see. It sounds like it will be BB indeed, even though I would find Greul funnier too:
http://tennismagazin.de/tour_exklusi...class=22&pid=1

Little gem of Hagelauer:
"Ils ont une bonne équipe de double, Greul et Kas sont des spécialistes".
(Greul's career high in doubles: 126, worst doubles player on the German team)

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