[its.like.that]

Originally Posted by its.like.that

Stage 5:

Winner not to be from the Isle of Man @ 2.40

that's 5/5 now for the tour.

Get the f*ck in!

[GustavoM_Fan]

7 seconds of difference. buenaaa Voeckler

more than 2 seconds was 6@ in bwin yesterday

[ExcaliburII]

Originally Posted by GustavoM_Fan

7 seconds of difference. buenaaa Voeckler

more than 2 seconds was 6@ in bwin yesterday

I put 5 pesines


Good hit on Voeckler Bolar.

Originally Posted by bad gambler

Tyler Farrar EW - $19/$3.50

Field to beat Cavendish - $2.40

gl

lost x 2, win

[Bolar Bolabi]

The way Rolf Aldag is talking, Columbia may not do much pace setting next week for the sprints. They are seeing if the other teams have balls. They're going about it the right way too.

If the break isn't chased down, Cav could get green on his shoulders till Paris. The less energy they use, the more likely Cav makes it to Paris.

[Bolar Bolabi]

If the pack comes back together, which I think it will, then Kirchen and Sanchez are excellent bets here. Milram are saying they will set it up for Ciolek.

H2H

3 units Kirchen over Pozzato @ $2.27
5 units Sanchez over Millar @ $2.29
5 units Kirchen over Pineau @ $1.62
2 units Martin over Duque @ $2.10

To win

1 unit Sanchez @ $34
3 units Sanchez place @ $8.50
.5 units Kirchen @ $9.00
.5 units Kirchen @ $2.80

.2 Garate @ $81
.2 Flecha @ $66
.2 Arroyo @ $66

Good luck!

[GustavoM_Fan]

Spaniard to win the stage 4 @ is value??

[Bolar Bolabi]

Get on it.

It's in their backyard.

Basically, Milram (Ciolek), Rabobank (Freire) and Cervelo (Hushovd) know that this stage is perfect for them to be able to win a bunch sprint as Cav won't be there. In the final 2km, there is a 500m incline at 6.6% which will disrupt the trains. Expect attacks to come here.

The break shouldn't survive tonight because those teams will be looking to set up their sprinters. But there will be a non sprinter who will outsmart them.

[Bolar Bolabi]

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi

If the pack comes back together, which I think it will, then Kirchen and Sanchez are excellent bets here. Milram are saying they will set it up for Ciolek.

H2H

3 units Kirchen over Pozzato @ $2.27
5 units Sanchez over Millar @ $2.29
5 units Kirchen over Pineau @ $1.62
2 units Martin over Duque @ $2.10

To win

1 unit Sanchez @ $34
3 units Sanchez place @ $8.50
.5 units Kirchen @ $9.00
.5 units Kirchen @ $2.80

.2 Garate @ $81
.2 Flecha @ $66
.2 Arroyo @ $66

Good luck!

Around 5 units lost.

[Bolar Bolabi]

Today is a good day for Alberto Contador to show his dominance in Astana. But he can only be launched if someone attacks. If Sastre attacks, he won't chase. However, he might have telephoned his good buddy LLS. If LLS attacks, Contador will go with him so as I mentioned before the Tour, tonight's stage is a good opportunity for LLS to drag Contador up the climb.

If Armstrong or Contador got yellow tonight, they will lose it tomorrow because a break will go clear after that climb tomorrow 40km from the finish. Tomorrow is a day for Moncoutie and Moreau. Moncoutie may try something today and may not be caught, but tomorrow is more important to him.

The break will be caught somewhere on the last climb. I'm thinking Sastre is an excellent choice here today. There are three riders I'm looking to win the stage. Sastre, Sanchez and Contador. IMO no one else will win the stage. Today goes to a Spanish rider. Again, this is logic and logic hasn't proven right this tour so far.

At the moment, I've placed these bets. I'll be coming back later with the stage winner.

The orange boys will be productive today. Astaraloza, Martinez or Anton get in the break.

3 units Sastre over Evans @ $2.59
1 units Astraloza over Efimkin @ $2.59
1 units Arroyo over Karpets @ $2.61
6 units Sanchez over Gerdemann @ $2.57
2 units Sanchez over Gerdemann @ $2.49
2 units Uran over Anton @ $2.13

Stage Winner

1 unit Sastre @ $14
3 units Contador @ $3.75
1 unit Sanchez @ $34
.5 unit Rogers @ $66
2.5 units Sastre top 3 @ $3.75

I'm only throwing something on Rogers because in 2007 Vino crashed and came back the next day and won the stage from a break. Landis rode crap in 2006 and did the same. If Rogers legs are good, he tries the break today.

Mick Rogers is 13 minutes down - he's going to be in a breakaway at some point.

Good luck!

[Bolar Bolabi]

Saxo

Saxo Bank manager Bjarne Riis said all the pressure is on Sastre and Evans to move.

“They’ve lost time and they have to do something. They cannot wait until the Alps,” Riis said. “One thing is sure, if no one takes the initiative and everyone is waiting on the others, we will do it. We cannot just let Astana ride to the top unchallenged.”

Contador

“Tomorrow, it’s a stage that’s pretty interesting. There are a lot of riders who have to try from afar. They are way back in the GC and they have to risk,” said Contador, third overall at 19 seconds back. “They have to try something. Everyone is asking who will attack, who won’t attack. We’ll have to see what happens.”

Contador’s destiny perhaps lies in the hands of others. With his team's domination the race, he won’t be obliged to attack. But if a rider like Andy Schleck (14th at 1:41) darts clear, Contador will have a free pass to punch the accelerator.

Armstrong on Contador

What will Armstrong do? He suggested Thursday that if Contador is on a great day, he might sit back and watch.

“I know Alberto wants to assert himself in the race. I don’t need a team meeting to tell me that,” Armstrong said. “I know he’s ready to go. If he does – and no one can go with him – I will just hang back and stay with the other leaders.”

[Bolar Bolabi]

1. Sastre

2. Contador +1.04

3. Sanchez +1.04

4. A Schleck +1.04

5. Evans +1.04

6. Kreuziger +1.04

7. Armstrong and the rest of the group +1.38



Not sure about Menchov!



I would think that Sastre might do what he did in the Giro and they main contenders will give him that. Contador will follow Schleck and bring Sanchez with him or Sanchez will attack. Naturally Evans will attempt the move and be successful with the strong Liquigas unit sending Kreu up the road.



Contador takes yellow! - Then sacrifices it tomorrow to a break or keeps it with the break being successful


I see something like that.

[Bolar Bolabi]

Defending champion Carlos Sastre (Cervélo TestTeam) is hoping to start drawing back time on Astana’s men, as he sits 2:44 minutes down. “We’ve done many climbs in the Pyrénées during the Tour de France, including one that I won,” said Sastre, referring to his stage victory in the 2003 Tour. “I also know Arcalis. I was second there once in a time trial. I think I’ve raced it four or five times. It’s hard, but not as steep as some other climbs.”


Cervélo sport director Jean-Paul Van Poppel seemed excited heading into today’s stage. Van Poppel is confidence that Sastre will be ready to make a move if required.

“Everyone thinks the Tour is over,” said Van Poppel. “The real racing begins now and we will start to take some time back. The Tour is just starting.

“If Carlos has the legs, he will make a move. He knows what he has to do,” Van Poppel said.

[Bolar Bolabi]

In play

4 units Martinez @ $4

[Bolar Bolabi]

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi

Today is a good day for Alberto Contador to show his dominance in Astana. But he can only be launched if someone attacks. If Sastre attacks, he won't chase. However, he might have telephoned his good buddy LLS. If LLS attacks, Contador will go with him so as I mentioned before the Tour, tonight's stage is a good opportunity for LLS to drag Contador up the climb.

If Armstrong or Contador got yellow tonight, they will lose it tomorrow because a break will go clear after that climb tomorrow 40km from the finish. Tomorrow is a day for Moncoutie and Moreau. Moncoutie may try something today and may not be caught, but tomorrow is more important to him.

The break will be caught somewhere on the last climb. I'm thinking Sastre is an excellent choice here today. There are three riders I'm looking to win the stage. Sastre, Sanchez and Contador. IMO no one else will win the stage. Today goes to a Spanish rider. Again, this is logic and logic hasn't proven right this tour so far.

At the moment, I've placed these bets. I'll be coming back later with the stage winner.

The orange boys will be productive today. Astaraloza, Martinez or Anton get in the break.

3 units Sastre over Evans @ $2.59
1 units Astraloza over Efimkin @ $2.59
1 units Arroyo over Karpets @ $2.61
6 units Sanchez over Gerdemann @ $2.57
2 units Sanchez over Gerdemann @ $2.49
2 units Uran over Anton @ $2.13
Stage Winner

1 unit Sastre @ $14
3 units Contador @ $3.75
1 unit Sanchez @ $34
.5 unit Rogers @ $66
2.5 units Sastre top 3 @ $3.75

4 units Martinez in play

I'm only throwing something on Rogers because in 2007 Vino crashed and came back the next day and won the stage from a break. Landis rode crap in 2006 and did the same. If Rogers legs are good, he tries the break today.

Mick Rogers is 13 minutes down - he's going to be in a breakaway at some point.

Good luck!

Fucking ****s didn't bother chasing the break.

Tomorrow a break will win - A frenchman will win it.