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Old 03-02-2015, 02:08 AM   #1
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Default Any players other than Nadal to win a title defeating players of the host country?

Buenos Aires...Argentina Open:
Nadal had to defeat the below players in all rounds to win a title


J. Monaco
C. Berlocq
F. Delbonis
F. Arguello


All are from Argentina...

It is very tough to win a title as the crowd support will always be good for the players from the country that is hosting the tournament.

Who are the other players to do the same and win a title?
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Old 03-02-2015, 02:17 AM   #2
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Gulbis almost did it in Marseille last year. His 1st match was RBA, but after that it was Mahut, Gasquet, Tsonga.

Similarly, Montanes in Nice in 2013 had a first-round match against Hanescu, then beat PHM, ERV, and Monfils.
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Gulbis almost did it in Marseille last year. His 1st match was RBA, but after that it was Mahut, Gasquet, Tsonga.

Similarly, Montanes in Nice in 2013 had a first-round match against Hanescu, then beat PHM, ERV, and Monfils.
But Hanescu is from Romania and the rest of the players are from France.
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:01 AM   #4
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you know, this is pretty hard. I found one, though!

Grosjean's win in Lyon 07'. I thought Roddick's in 05' would count, but he beat 4 frenchmen and Ancic. Anyway, Grosjean beat Cadart-Santoro-Benneteau-Tsonga-Gicquel to win the title. So there's at least one more

edit: Another one! This can only happen in US/France/Spain/Argentina/Germany, only countries that have/had enough players at ATP level at any given moment -recently, at least- for this to have a chance.

Ferrer @ Valencia 2008, def. Navarro-Andujar-Verdasco-Robredo-Almagro.
Curiously, in both of my examples, the winner was also a local player.
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you know, this is pretty hard. I found one, though!

Grosjean's win in Lyon 07'. I thought Roddick's in 05' would count, but he beat 4 frenchmen and Ancic. Anyway, Grosjean beat Cadart-Santoro-Benneteau-Tsonga-Gicquel to win the title. So there's at least one more

edit: Another one! This can only happen in US/France/Spain/Argentina/Germany, only countries that have/had enough players at ATP level at any given moment -recently, at least- for this to have a chance.

Ferrer @ Valencia 2008, def. Navarro-Andujar-Verdasco-Robredo-Almagro.
Curiously, in both of my examples, the winner was also a local player.
I was about to comment and you edited your post on your own.

Grosjean, the French, beat fellow French players at a tournament that took place in France.

Ferrer, the Spaniard, beat fellow Spanish players at a tournament that took place in Spain.

Rafa's win is unique in that respect, going to another country and winning it all beating their countrymen in all rounds.
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I am doing a full research it will take some time but the first case I found

Christo Van Rensburg(RSA) in Orlando 1987 he beat Giammalva, Davis, Rostagno, Mayotte and Connors
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Nishikori almost did it in Memphis this year, but Blanderson ruined it by taking out Young in the semis.
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But Hanescu is from Romania and the rest of the players are from France.
Thus it's an "almost" just like Gulbis.
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As mentioned in the match thread, this happened a few times in the US in the 1970s and 1980s. Jimmy Connors surely has the record for doing it most often.

I would be interested to know if anyone can find an instance of this happening with players not from the home nation. Like Americans in Australia or vice versa.
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As mentioned in the match thread, this happened a few times in the US in the 1970s and 1980s. Jimmy Connors surely has the record for doing it most often.

I would be interested to know if anyone can find an instance of this happening with players not from the home nation. Like Americans in Australia or vice versa.
Look 3 post above you

Also the second that I find Marc Kevin Goellner (GER) in Marbella 1996 beating Carbonell, Clavet, Vicente, Mantilla and Corretja
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Look 3 post above you

Also the second that I find Marc Kevin Goellner (GER) in Marbella 1996 beating Carbonell, Clavet, Vicente, Mantilla and Corretja
That's not what I meant. I was talking about the beaten players. Lendl in the US is the easiest example of a foreigner beating locals. But do we have a local beating foreigners? Or a foreigner beating foreigners?
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Look 3 post above you

Also the second that I find Marc Kevin Goellner (GER) in Marbella 1996 beating Carbonell, Clavet, Vicente, Mantilla and Corretja
So only 3 players faced this situation in the history of tennis.

How about those players who came close and lost in the final. Can you check if there are any players like that.
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That's not what I meant. I was talking about the beaten players. Lendl in the US is the easiest example of a foreigner beating locals. But do we have a local beating foreigners? Or a foreigner beating foreigners?
Now I understand you but at least for now I can't give you that answer. In the future I will work in a bigger database

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So only 3 players faced this situation in the history of tennis.

How about those players who came close and lost in the final. Can you check if there are any players like that.
I still didn't check the rest of player so we can have more cases
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So only 3 players faced this situation in the history of tennis.

How about those players who came close and lost in the final. Can you check if there are any players like that.
There are certainly more. We also have Guillermo Vilas winning a couple of tournaments in Australia beating only Aussies. I have never tried to make an exhaustive list about this, though, I've only seen through what the big names have done.
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There are certainly more. We also have Guillermo Vilas winning a couple of tournaments in Australia beating only Aussies. I have never tried to make an exhaustive list about this, though, I've only seen through what the big names have done.
Any big names that almost did? Like winning all rounds, but losing in the final.
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