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Old 05-13-2009, 10:55 AM   #31
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he needs to work on his fitness for the long matches that might come in the slams.

regardless, i make him the favourite for this year's us open. nadal will probably be too burnt out, and that would leave only murray in his way.
murray is better on hard and he should win in their's pontential match on us open.
also nadal will be favourite against djokovic too.djokovic has complex of nadal.

federer is tehnically better for sure.

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Old 05-13-2009, 11:03 AM   #32
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This gets my vote for the most delusional thread of all-time. I'll be bumping this in September baybay!
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:14 AM   #33
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There's nothing wrong with Nadal's technique is there? But yeah Djokovic is probably the most technically sound when his game works. Most of the time it doesn't.
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What means technically? If we exclude movement on court? I can't see how you would rate the Baseline Game of Djokovic above Nadal overall. If you subtract the athletic supremacy of Nadal by calling it non-technical, then I would agree that Nole is the best at the moment.
as i said, nadal is a better mover.

as for murray, he might even be THE best mover on hardcourts right now. though he's not that good on clay.

but, imo, djokovic's other qualities make up for that.
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as i said, nadal is a better mover.

as for murray, he might even be THE best mover on hardcourts right now. though he's not that good on clay.

but, imo, djokovic's other qualities make up for that.
Make up for that? Nadal holds a 13:4 record, I don't think that is due to his volley game or serving.
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Federer retired?
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Make up for that? Nadal holds a 13:4 record, I don't think that is due to his volley game or serving.
your point?

gasquet is a technically sound player, and he'll probably be banned for cocaine use.
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Is he really technically the best? His forehand stroke is a very damaging stroke to his body. He is already doing an incredible amount of work on the flexibility exercise to maintain those tennis strokes, but yet he still contracts back injuries at young age. The most damaging part of his tennis is at times the lack of rotation with the hips during a full power shot on the run with legs spread apart. He rotates the upper body too much up the air and can cause horrific injury over time. I do hope he can improve in that field in future.
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whatever happened to Nadal and Federer? did they die today?
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no Nadal and Murray are better returners than Djokovic
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:08 PM   #41
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i take it everyone agrees.
I agree. I've said for a long time Djok was the most technically sound player out there. Just to many people can't separate that from results, wins, fitness, and attitude, etc.
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Is he really technically the best? His forehand stroke is a very damaging stroke to his body. He is already doing an incredible amount of work on the flexibility exercise to maintain those tennis strokes, but yet he still contracts back injuries at young age. The most damaging part of his tennis is at times the lack of rotation with the hips during a full power shot on the run with legs spread apart. He rotates the upper body too much up the air and can cause horrific injury over time. I do hope he can improve in that field in future.
The most damaging stoke to his body right now is his serve. Far to much back arch, and the ball toss is way to inconsistent causing him to make body adjustments all over the place with an excessive back arch.
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Is he really technically the best? His forehand stroke is a very damaging stroke to his body. He is already doing an incredible amount of work on the flexibility exercise to maintain those tennis strokes, but yet he still contracts back injuries at young age. The most damaging part of his tennis is at times the lack of rotation with the hips during a full power shot on the run with legs spread apart. He rotates the upper body too much up the air and can cause horrific injury over time. I do hope he can improve in that field in future.
Actually he is one of the players who does most rotation with upper body and hips of both FH and BH today. His shots heavily relies on open/close body/hips with minimum arms participation. That is why his drop shots and volleys are inconsistent (from excellent to awful) and why he is improving with his slice at such a slow rate.
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Technically, he is the most complete baseliner, that is, when he Completes a match, which isn't as often as one would think or expect.

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"hatred leads me throughout my life".
not sure what you meant by that ivan, there are certainly many things I don't like about Djokovic but I certainly don't "hate" him, I only "hate" Birdsh**, Toaderling and Boredo

I was saying the truth notice I didn't bring Roger's name there.
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