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05-13-2009, 08:04 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
i take it everyone agrees.
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Match Point Novak needs to be immortalized in sculpture, like Michelangelo's David. I'm sure that once he's gone to tennis Valhalla, his statue will have his stones as the focal point of attention, and tennis fans will make a meccan-like pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime, in order to rub those lucky stones, like the budda's belly.
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05-13-2009, 08:07 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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05-13-2009, 08:10 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
gotta love the fact that the MOST complete baseliner doesn't even have a proper slice
Arsen 
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If I can help the game of tennis with the image or with making it more popular, that’s enough for me really. I want to leave the game better off than when I came into this great game
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05-13-2009, 08:17 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
hello mimi.
let us compare djokovic to other top players:
forehand:
nadal has a better forehand on clay, though on hardcourts i would give djoko the edge.
djokovic has a better forehand than murray
federer's forehand is an abomination as of this year. no comparison necessary
backhand:
nadal has been firing his crosscourt backhand lately, though i would give djokovic the edge in this department.
murray arguably has the best 2 handed backhand today. i would say djokovic is on par with him.
federer's backhand... next.
serve:
djokovic has a better serve than nadal.
murray has improved his serve, maybe he's on par with djokovic now.
federer's serve is pretty much what's keeping him alive. it's hard to read and that's its main advantage. though the consistency is dropping. djokovic takes it.
movement:
nadal is a better mover on all surfaces
murray anticipates as if he reads minds, no comparison possible.
federer has gotten lazy. djokovic clearly moves better than him on any surface.
return of serve:
djokovic is the best returner today.
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Match Point Novak needs to be immortalized in sculpture, like Michelangelo's David. I'm sure that once he's gone to tennis Valhalla, his statue will have his stones as the focal point of attention, and tennis fans will make a meccan-like pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime, in order to rub those lucky stones, like the budda's belly.
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05-13-2009, 08:20 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
hello habib.
u might not have noticed but djokovic is using his backhand slice with increased frequency both as a defenive shot and as an attacking shot preceding a net approach. it is one key part of his backhand that i left out in my review, accidentally as it slipped my mind.
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Match Point Novak needs to be immortalized in sculpture, like Michelangelo's David. I'm sure that once he's gone to tennis Valhalla, his statue will have his stones as the focal point of attention, and tennis fans will make a meccan-like pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime, in order to rub those lucky stones, like the budda's belly.
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05-13-2009, 08:22 AM
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hello habib.
u might not have noticed but djokovic is using his backhand slice with increased frequency both as a defenive shot and as an attacking shot preceding a net approach. it is one key part of his backhand that i left out in my review, accidentally as it slipped my mind.
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it wasn't accidental my friend, you can't remember what doesn't exist.
his horrendous attempt of a slice sits up like a lazy chicken on labor.
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If I can help the game of tennis with the image or with making it more popular, that’s enough for me really. I want to leave the game better off than when I came into this great game
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05-13-2009, 08:23 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
no Nadal and Murray are better returners than Djokovic, and Federer's serve is the best among all the top 4, no comparison.
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If I can help the game of tennis with the image or with making it more popular, that’s enough for me really. I want to leave the game better off than when I came into this great game
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05-13-2009, 08:24 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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hello habib.
u might not have noticed but djokovic is using his backhand slice with increased frequency both as a defenive shot and as an attacking shot preceding a net approach. it is one key part of his backhand that i left out in my review, accidentally as it slipped my mind.
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I'm afraid you're mistaken, Fakervic can't hit an attacking slice.
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05-13-2009, 08:36 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
You just love to start sh1t don't you  ?
I can hear the flow of vCash. Unless you are being too obvious
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05-13-2009, 08:39 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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oh but he should. u are missing out on the psychological aspect of the game. the winner is determined by slight differences, sometimes a little extra confidence can go a long way.
either way, both djokovic and murray have the tools to take him out in a hardcourt match
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Yeah Del Potro really psyched everyone out with all those hardcourt wins  oh wait he psyched himself out
Give these guys all the wins they want, they won't scare anyone in the slams 
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05-13-2009, 08:52 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
Anyone has the tools to take anyone out, look at Murray, we've seen he has the tools to beat Federer, but he crumbled in the only match that mattered, and if Murray meets Federer again in a GS Final I'd still put my money on Federer owning him mentally and winning in straight sets again.
After seeing Murray being wiped off the court by Nadal in windy conditions it shows how fragile he is, just put him in a GS Final or make him play in breezy conditions, thats all it takes.
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05-13-2009, 09:00 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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it wasn't accidental my friend, you can't remember what doesn't exist.
his horrendous attempt of a slice sits up like a lazy chicken on labor.
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federer slices because he must. he can't cope with the finishing power of djokovic, nadal or andy murray, respectivelly.
djokovic needs not slice as much, though it is a shot he is developing as we speak.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Oracle
Match Point Novak needs to be immortalized in sculpture, like Michelangelo's David. I'm sure that once he's gone to tennis Valhalla, his statue will have his stones as the focal point of attention, and tennis fans will make a meccan-like pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime, in order to rub those lucky stones, like the budda's belly.
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05-13-2009, 09:08 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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no Nadal and Murray are better returners than Djokovic, and Federer's serve is the best among all the top 4, no comparison.
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nadal, perhaps if you look at quantity over quality.
murray is also up there, but i have made my choice with djokovic.
as for federer's serve, i have stated why i don't rank it #1
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Originally Posted by Mr. Oracle
Match Point Novak needs to be immortalized in sculpture, like Michelangelo's David. I'm sure that once he's gone to tennis Valhalla, his statue will have his stones as the focal point of attention, and tennis fans will make a meccan-like pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime, in order to rub those lucky stones, like the budda's belly.
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05-13-2009, 10:03 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
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i don't think nadal will want to skip events and lose the momentum. after all, the momentum he gathered starting from the clay season is what got him his first wimbledon and the #1 ranking last year.
physical and even mental fatigue is natural for any tennis player, even one of spartan origin.
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good point. i could not agree more. he thrives on that clay season momentum and confidence. that is what takes him straight into Wimby with a highly tuned up ground game and a ton of confidence.
but back to the topic in question: Nole is quite rock solid off the ground. being just 21, he still has a huge upside.
now that you throw in the word "technically", he is right up there near the top. could be a little more consistent and could have a better slice. all that is coming.
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05-13-2009, 10:51 AM
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Re: Djokovic is technically the most complete baseliner today
What means technically? If we exclude movement on court? I can't see how you would rate the Baseline Game of Djokovic above Nadal overall. If you subtract the athletic supremacy of Nadal by calling it non-technical, then I would agree that Nole is the best at the moment.
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