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View Poll Results: Are players peaking at older ages in tennis now than in the past?

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Old 02-22-2013, 04:51 PM   #406
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It's an impression I've had and which I meant to say because I always read that you can't have a long carreer if you grind a lot, which is what people seem to say about Nadal and sometimes about Djokovic. When I look at lower-ranked players, this doesn't seem obvious at all.
Dunno, I've heard that many times, but never made much sense to me, except gymnastics there's practically no sport out there where a 25-26 yr old player is expected to be "washed up" and ready to retire, grinding or no grinding.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:58 PM   #407
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Default Re: Where are the teenagers ? None in top 250 !

teens are busy training with Pierre Ludovic Duclos.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:31 PM   #408
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Jiri Vesely will be 242nd next week and has made another ATP point (for now) this week.
This is reaching! Vesely is ranked 206 now but he'll be 20 in four months!

However, the real 'teen' still in his wonder years is 17 year old Nick Kyrgios ranked 324.

How's Vesely's game anyways? Any promise?
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This is reaching! Vesely is ranked 206 now but he'll be 20 in four months!

However, the real 'teen' still in his wonder years is 17 year old Nick Kyrgios ranked 324.

How's Vesely's game anyways? Any promise?
We will see this year on Challenger circuit, he mastered Futures well
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Wow what is Kei Nishikori doing down there !! As I remember he used to be much much higher, If not the top 20. The low amount of young players in Top 100 is not bringing us a good future, I think But what to do.
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Default Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

People talk about how physical the game has supposedly become, but is that really the reason?

I saw an incredibly unfit Murray reach the third round of Wimbledon at 18, Nadal had won RG at 19, Novak was putting some good performances as well yet the current crop of youngsters couldn't beat their way out of a paper bag.

We are truly blessed to have four brilliant tennis players. Once they retire I have no idea what state the game will be in.

In the space of 4-5 years are we really to believe it's become impossible for a teenager to break through?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:06 PM   #412
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Default Re: Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

The game is more physical than it was in 2005-2007.

Give it a year or two and I think the younger guys will start to come through.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:19 PM   #413
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Default Re: Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

Tennis has become incredibly physical. The athletic requirements are far higher than they were still some years ago. And you need years in the gym and on the courts to develop the needed athleticism. (A bit off topic now) it's the same for example in handball. There you also need athleticism and you hardly have guys of 19, 20, 21 years who are already playing on the top level, who are already physically matured. At least 95% of them still have development potential.
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Slower courts.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #415
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Default Re: Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

So called young guns are awful.It`s normal, because after every great generation there is often vacuum.Nole and Andy were physicaly not that great in early years and still had respectable results-Murray beating Federer in 2006,etc.They were extremely gifted, those guys are not.They are like 21,22 and people calling them young guns is travesty.Del Potro ripped Federer in USO at tender age of 21,Nole was in finals of USO when 20.Next big thing is probably making his way through junior ranks.
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Default Re: Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

Not good enough.

Physicality is not the issue. Nadal was a beast at 18 already.
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depth, game becoming a lot more physical, much much more pressure than before cause of the amount of money involved and the evolution of medias (internet etc...)
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Because they suck.
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Default Re: Why are teenagers struggling to break through?

A combination of things:

slower courts do not allow for "upsets", the physical and technical talents among the youngsters are less than ever before, and mental strength are weak among the youngsters (they seem to be spoilt bunch: tomug, gulbis - although seem changing now, dimugtrov)
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:00 AM   #420
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Simple... in these tough economic times they simply can't afford to be on tour. Low ranked tournaments don't pay the bills... so they either have to be lucky enough to get sponsored or have a rich Daddy. Most find another career. The tennis talent that actually gets through is sadly often based on finances.

Most have to grind for years, living on the breadline before someone finally takes notice
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