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Old 02-18-2012, 07:07 PM   #226
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so uhm...

what's the deal with this...
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:42 PM   #227
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Good for me. Good for the game too.

Too often we had teenagers breaking through in the past and mentally and maturity wise, they simply aren't ready for it. Now, it is tougher to break through, and guys experience success later. Which also prolongs your career. A guy can play Top 150 level or better tennis for about 10 years. When guys break through at 16 or 17, they are done physically by 26-27, mentally maybe earlier than that.

But if a guy doesn't break through until 22-23, then he can play until his early 30's or beyond at a high level.

A lot also has to do with playing style and the individual player's level of love and commitment for the game.
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Good for me. Good for the game too.

Too often we had teenagers breaking through in the past and mentally and maturity wise, they simply aren't ready for it. Now, it is tougher to break through, and guys experience success later. Which also prolongs your career. A guy can play Top 150 level or better tennis for about 10 years. When guys break through at 16 or 17, they are done physically by 26-27, mentally maybe earlier than that.

But if a guy doesn't break through until 22-23, then he can play until his early 30's or beyond at a high level.

A lot also has to do with playing style and the individual player's level of love and commitment for the game.
it's not gonna happen. like your post tho. being a Nole fan I'm kinda happy that he started winning majors now when he is 24. I think all players need to mature. I simply can't see any of these young guys coming even close to Nole, Rog or Rafa.

I've been watching tennis for a very long times. The first match I saw was Borg vs. Jmac 1980 I think. I truly believe that what we are seeing nowadays are the best tennis players ever. these guys are simply creating history.
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The number #1 is 24 , how is that old?
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:25 PM   #230
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I was just referring to this in another thread. I, for one, miss the teen major winners. My first tennis match was Becker winning Wimbledon. Mesmerized. Graf in '88, Hingis...there was something special about discovering someone so early on, watching them grow up on court and getting excited about possibly many years of greatness ahead. I haven't felt this since Rafa 7 years ago and that's a century in tennis time. I've already given up on the so-called next gen. I've found myself watching the junior slam finals this past year to see if anyone catches my eye, no such luck yet.

Whatever it is, physicality, slower courts, new technology, attitude...whatever have stopped the prodigy phenomenon, I need it dealt with yesterday.

Having said that, I have no problem with the, well, more experienced players getting their long overdue 15 mins of fame...God knows Sam, Na, Fran on the women's side had paid their dues.
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The number #1 is 24 , how is that old?
One player =/= the entire 100
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there are no wunderkinds because the slow tour grind rewards slow tour grind...

key FACT: endurance peaks at age 35 in men
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So just a few more years to wait for Hass' golden slam then mate?

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The tour is ageing as there is no new talent in the young age groups. Simples really. If Raonic, Harrison, Young, Dimitrov were the real deal they'd be getting results today. That the top four have been Djokovic, Nadal, Federer and Murray for 2 years solid, and Ferrer has been top 8 for 3 years solid, has said everything you need to know about mens game. Defenders with great consistency, or top top talents (Federer) are required to at the top of the mens game. No young guys come anywhere near to the level required.
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Default What is the cause for a lack of youngsters coming through the game?

Tomic, Raonic, Harrison, face it they're all mugs. And I was hearing the other day that there are far fewer teenagers in the top 100 right now than any other time. There are no 18-22 year olds who look like taking the tennis world by storm. Compare this to the likes of sampras, aggassi, safin, federer, roddick, hewitt, ferrero, nadal, djokovic, del potro, murray - these guys have all at least got to grand slam finals when they were youngsters, and most won them.

So what is the main/most likely cause for this?
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They're not good enough, except some cases like Dolgopolov who is just a headcase, but he has the talent.
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Simply not good enough. Anyway, there's no rule that there shoould be a Sampras or a Federer every 5 or every 10 years

Last but not least, several other sports got massive gains in cash/popularity/etc in the last 20 yrs or so compared to tennis - if you are +190cm tall, tennis isn't going to be high on the list most likely. NBA finals used to be on tape delay in the 80s, but look at them now - even a complete scrub who never gets up from the bench is making close to $1 mil. per year, and if he doesn't totally suck, it could be $2 mil. easily.
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Mugness I guess.
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The fact it's become so physical puts younger guys at a disadvantage to the fully developed and also to get to the top of the game you need to have a brilliant defensive game and excellent conditioning for long rallies and battles.

All of the newer generation are considered clowns, but the truth of the matter is they would transcend better to more 'skill-friendly' eras. For example Raonic in the 90s and Dimitrov in the 80s. Only Tomic if he ever grows some stamina and fighting spirit has the defensive game and possible finishing power to be competitive.
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