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Old 02-02-2009, 08:53 PM   #241
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watch the last 30 seconds of this Basel final in 2001



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I haven't see that kind of emotional breakdown at a trophy ceremony since Jana Novotna lost to Steffi Graf when she melted down after a set up and serving to go up 5-1.

And yeah, I agree that probably Federer didn't want to humiliate himself in public like that, but still.... He's beaten ever so many people at slams and in slam finals too. I'm sure they wanted it just as badly as he wanted it today, however they managed to remain gracious in defeat. If any one of his opponents in a grand slam final had broken down like Federer did today, I'm sure that they would have been laughed at by most of the posters here. Maybe he couldn't help it, but how is it that others do manage, but he can't? Also, why is it that when Federer cries, it's somehow evidence of just how wonderful he is when those same posters would have laughed at Andy if he had broken down after his bitter losses to Federer at Wimbledon?

When he beat Nadal at Wimbledon the year before last, Nadal wept bitterly in the locker room, but managed to be gracious at the victory ceremony. I'd like for Nadal for once be able to be happy at a slam victory ceremony rather than having to be tiptoeing around Federer's feelings.

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Old 02-02-2009, 09:13 PM   #243
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The death of tennis is enough reason to cry. Seeing someone with Nadal's limited gamestyle having a realistic chance at winning the grand slam signals this death - decent enough human being Nadal may however be. A player whose style is only brute force, who would not even conceivably be a great player without the gigantic sweet spot on his raquet, triumphs over one of the greatest all-court players and artists tennis has seen.

You could tell by Laver's face that he wasn't happy about Nadal winning. Laver lavishes praise on Federer - since when has he done the same to Nadal? It's like Laver said recently...the artistry has gone out of the sport. Men's tennis is going the way of the women's, just simply clubbing the ball. The only difference is the added topspin. What rubbish professional tennis has become in the space of only ten years.

Why is Roger not allowed to show his feelings? You can not always control your emotion, it is something natural.

Roger is much more sensitive than the raging bull, he is an artist.

But he is more loved by the public, it was clear as water yesterday during the ceremony.
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A Mickey Mouse final and he cries too? My goodness that's beyond pathetic... And he lost in str8s too.

You'd think he'd have changed a bit after years of dominating the tour... guess not.
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This is an interesting topic and I believe both points of view have some validity to them.

I found it interesting when some posters suggested the idea that Roger cried because he was unable to catch Sampras' record, and also that Nadal has become a real nightmare for him.

Nadal loves the game for what it is, and like he keeps saying, he'll try his best, and what comes will come.

However, you can't change the way you are. Although to casual outsider seeing Federer cry because he did not achieve his career benchmark may look self absorbed, it is the way he is. He has played tennis all his life and has achieved what few others have, you cannot condemn a guy for crying sincerely after having reached the brink of tennis glory, 14 grand slams.

There is no more merit for Rafa not crying when he loses a slam in front of the crowd as Federer did this time. That's just something inherited by genetics.

I seriously doubt that either of these two players would intentionally try to hurt the other in any way, shape or form.
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It spoiled your moment? I guess you forgot two people play the match, one lost and one won. For Federer it evidently meant more. For Nadal it doesn't matter he can play for another few years at full (or better) health. He will play atleast 12 more grandslams.

For Federer every loss brings him a barrage of haters, a barrage of "he should retire!" and a media journo's giving him pressure. Every loss brings "Federer can't beat Nadal". "Federer too old". "Federer won't break record". "Federer isn't GOAT". To be honest I would cry every time I lost if there was that kind of pressure.
About spoiling my moment, well, was some kind of a joke, but really it was difficult to celebrate anything with a guy crying like a baby just looking at the trophy and sobbing.

Federer has been a crusher of dreams for so many players, that it's absurd to be compassionate about him yesterday. And sorry but you think Nadal will play only 12 more slams? and Federer less? you're very wrong, Roger still has about 20 chances to win, specially Wimbledon and USO. Very likely, in four years he will still be able to reach finals, being 31, and Nadal will have much more trouble.

About pressure... please! all the world is licking his ass! This guy can fart and everybody would say he's better than Mozart! His pee can be bottled and sold for $500 a bottle! He's JesusFed, the GOAT!

Nadal is the one with pressure everyday: he has been called a claycourter, onedimensional, will get injured, has no class, picks ass, makes excuses, likely a doper, a cheater, delays serve... he is the most hated player in this board, and outside too. Yet he's the top sportsman, an example for everyone, and don't forget it, much younger.
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About spoiling my moment, well, was some kind of a joke, but really it was difficult to celebrate anything with a guy crying like a baby just looking at the trophy and sobbing.

Federer has been a crusher of dreams for so many players, that it's absurd to be compassionate about him yesterday. And sorry but you think Nadal will play only 12 more slams? and Federer how many? you're very wrong, Roger still has about 20 chances to win, specially Wimbledon and USO. Very likely, in four years he will still be able to reach finals, being 31, and Nadal will have much more trouble.
Ah, so by that logic every time Rafa loses in a GS final I will stomp on the man, kick him while he's down because "crushers of dreams" deserve no compassion. Thanks for showing me "the light".
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About spoiling my moment, well, was some kind of a joke, but really it was difficult to celebrate anything with a guy crying like a baby just looking at the trophy and sobbing.

Federer has been a crusher of dreams for so many players, that it's absurd to be compassionate about him yesterday. And sorry but you think Nadal will play only 12 more slams? and Federer how many? you're very wrong, Roger still has about 20 chances to win, specially Wimbledon and USO. Very likely, in four years he will still be able to reach finals, being 31, and Nadal will have much more trouble.
If it is a good rivalry, you should enjoy it even more as a Nadal supporter. I would love to see my rival crying because I beat him. Even as a fan, if I see a fan or player from the other team crying, I love it even more.
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I would love to see my rival crying because I beat him. Even as a fan, if I see a fan or player from the other team crying, I love it even more.
You have a point here. That is why, though I don't doubt that Nadal was trying to do the right thing when he was comforting Federer, I'm sure Nadal had to be enjoying that moment. I would!
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You have a point here. That is why, though I don't doubt that Nadal was trying to do the right thing when he was comforting Federer, I'm sure Nadal had to be enjoying that moment. I would!
Oh yeah, not necessarily on Nadal's end. But if I was a Nadal fan and saw Fed cry like that, I would be laughing my ass of and loving it, not feeling like it ruined Nadal's moment.

Nadal had to be thinking at that moment, "He is mine. I own him"
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To me the entire trophy ceremony was full with low moments. First they brought to the stadium Rod Laver and all four players he defeated in the finals to complete his GS. It looked like "See this is our great champion and those 4 are the poor runner-ups who contributed to his fame by being defeated" All 4 of them didn't look happy a bit. Now imagine Nadal completes a GS be it a career not calendar one and after 30-40 years some organizers make the same ceremony - they bring Federer on court and announce "See here is Nadal the great champion and here is our proud runner-up who was beaten 3 times in a row by our champion in GS finals". What do you think would that be right? It would be a fact but an embarrassing moment nevertheless. Well after that the presenter seeing Federer burst into tears maybe willing to comfort him announced "Roger is everybody's favorite" Yeah right, take half of the world out and you might be right.

I would prefer Federer has contained himself though. When you return to the locker room cry if you like, brake something if that will help you but when on court during the ceremony just clench your teeth and smile. It seems Roger isn't that type of a man.
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Wah wah I can't beat Rafa
Wah wah Mirka is fat and ugly
Wah Wah I cant win clayles GS anymore

Reminds me of Fed in 07 wimbly sobbing alout about Rafas forehand "keeeling him". Now the loss is "keeling him".

When did he become such a basket case?
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I would prefer Federer has contained himself though. When you return to the locker room cry if you like, brake something if that will help you but when on court during the ceremony just clench your teeth and smile. It seems Roger isn't that type of a man.
Or maybe he was just in that time of the month?
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Or maybe he was just in that time of the month?
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