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Old 01-30-2009, 11:14 PM   #16
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Although i'm a big Fed fan and think Fed is 3 times a player than that fucking moonballer that's killing all joy of watching tennis, i can't in my right mind explain why are bookies (or anyone other for that matter) making Fed a fav. For God's sake, Fed falls apart every time he sees Rafa over the net. I would take Fed if he would be around at least @2.20, but this @1.60 is just ridiculously low, so it's a no bet for me.
Ditto. 2.20 isn't much enough though. I wouldn't touch Fed in this match even with a high vault pole... but BOL Bilbo.
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:15 PM   #17
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I dont know if Rafa will win for sure, but Bilbo dont put your money, the risk is not good. I think the odds are right and Fed always plays bad against Nadal. Rafa knows how to beat him and get in his skin.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:23 AM   #18
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Nadal isn't superman. There's no way he can be 100% tomorrow after 5 hours on a hardcourt.

Hard is Nadal's worst surface. Don't forget that he's much better on grass than on hard.

Nadal has not played well in the last few matches.

Fed has been superb.

In other words the outcome firmly rests with Fed. The match is in his hands. Or, more accurately, his balls.

Fed should clinch this.

This is the 2nd time I ever bet on Fed against Nadal I think and the first since the 06 Wimbledon final.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:45 AM   #19
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You are all mixed up crackers you know that? you forget one thing and maybe the important one- this match won't be played on clay neither on grass. It's hardcourt if you forgot it for a sec. Look what Verdasco did to Nadal, almost 100 winners in one match while Nadal has barley half of that amount. If Verdasco wouldn't have hit those 2 DFs in the deciding game I just can't believe that Nadal would have won this match. Today it was all about Verdasco and his massive forehands and serves. Do you really think that Federer has worse serve or forehand? His serve is for sure the better one and about the forehand we all know that he got the best one in the history of this game. He can hit alot flatter than Verdasco which can cause Nadal an enormous damage on this surface.
I'm reminding you again, this is hardcourt, nadal can't do here what he did on grass or on clay to Federer, it's a different story this time.
In additional you can't ignore the fact that Federer has started his rest since the match against Berdych was over (I consider his matches against DelPo and Roddick has resting days) while Nadal is having less than 48 hours to rest properly and restore himself after the brutal match today which took more than 5 hours.
So look at the facts before you declaring that Federer deserve to get the price of at least 2.2....
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:54 AM   #20
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You are all mixed up crackers you know that? you forget one thing and maybe the important one- this match won't be played on clay neither on grass. It's hardcourt if you forgot it for a sec. Look what Verdasco did to Nadal, almost 100 winners in one match while Nadal has barley half of that amount. If Verdasco wouldn't have hit those 2 DFs in the deciding game I just can't believe that Nadal would have won this match. Today it was all about Verdasco and his massive forehands and serves. Do you really think that Federer has worse serve or forehand? His serve is for sure the better one and about the forehand we all know that he got the best one in the history of this game. He can hit alot flatter than Verdasco which can cause Nadal an enormous damage on this surface.
I'm reminding you again, this is hardcourt, nadal can't do here what he did on grass or on clay to Federer, it's a different story this time.
In additional you can't ignore the fact that Federer has started his rest since the match against Berdych was over (I consider his matches against DelPo and Roddick has resting days) while Nadal is having less than 48 hours to rest properly and restore himself after the brutal match today which took more than 5 hours.
So look at the facts before you declaring that Federer deserve to get the price of at least 2.2....
Really? i thought we were all watching a clay court

h2h record shows Nadal is capable of beating Federer on a harcourt on 3 occasions Nadal has beaten Fed on hard offcourse it can happen again,

the match for me is a 50-50
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:20 AM   #21
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Nadal has beaten Federer 2 times, not 3, while one of those matches took place on the slowest hardcourt on the atp tour in Miami and the second win was in dubai..c'mon..who cares about dubai, this is a grandslam we are talking about here, not some tiny tourny in the middle of nowhere. Federer has beaten Nadal very easily 2 consecutive years on the fast court in Shanghai which for me has a bigger meaning than some match in dubai or on an hardclay court like in Miami.
And again , you can't ignore the fact that Federer has almost a full week to rest while Nadal has less than 48..
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:35 AM   #22
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Nadal has beaten Federer 2 times, not 3, while one of those matches took place on the slowest hardcourt on the atp tour in Miami and the second win was in dubai..c'mon..who cares about dubai, this is a grandslam we are talking about here, not some tiny tourny in the middle of nowhere. Federer has beaten Nadal very easily 2 consecutive years on the fast court in Shanghai which for me has a bigger meaning than some match in dubai or on an hardclay court like in Miami.
And again , you can't ignore the fact that Federer has almost a full week to rest while Nadal has less than 48..
So is it confirmed then?This is a grand slam and it is on a hard court no?
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:42 AM   #23
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very funny..do what you want but don't cry after you see Fed beats the hell out of Nadal and your money goes straight to the toilet..
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:46 AM   #24
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very funny..do what you want but don't cry after you see Fed beats the hell out of Nadal and your money goes to the toilet..
well it wont go to the toilet it will probably go towards a new set of tits for my bookies wife.
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well it wont go to the toilet it will probably go towards a new set of tits for my bookies wife.
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well it wont go to the toilet it will probably go towards a new set of tits for my bookies wife.
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10/10 on the Serena/Fed double @ 2.31

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Nadal has beaten Federer 2 times, not 3, while one of those matches took place on the slowest hardcourt on the atp tour in Miami and the second win was in dubai..c'mon..who cares about dubai, this is a grandslam we are talking about here, not some tiny tourny in the middle of nowhere. Federer has beaten Nadal very easily 2 consecutive years on the fast court in Shanghai which for me has a bigger meaning than some match in dubai or on an hardclay court like in Miami.
And again , you can't ignore the fact that Federer has almost a full week to rest while Nadal has less than 48..
in case you didn't notice, federer only has 24 hours of recovery time on nadal, not bloody 4 days.
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you would be right if his matches against delpo and roddick were actually considered as "matches" . i consider it more as walkovers so it can be counted as days off..
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