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Old 01-20-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Hi,

As the ranking system seems not so fair, i've done a "try" with a new ranking system : Best 18 (4 GS - 9 Masters 1000 - 5 best other events)

Here is the result with some precision

Shanghai masters was not existing last year (so Hambourg is count as Masters for last years)

In the best 5 other results is included Shanghai (don't know what to do about this tournament !)

I'll have some practical questions :
for example, last year, Hamburg was a masters. This year, at the place it will be Shanghai in october.
The week of Hamburg, will i delete the last year Hamburg (08) results or will i had Hamburg (09) in the best 5 and wait shanghai (09) to delete Masters Hamburg (08) points ? Not sure to be clear...

well let's see the result




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Old 01-20-2009, 03:58 PM   #2
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Hi,

As the ranking system seems not so fair, i've done a "try" with a new ranking system : Best 18 (4 GS - 9 Masters 1000 - 5 best other events)

Here is the result with some precision

Shanghai masters was not existing last year (so Hambourg is count as Masters for last years)

In the best 5 other results is included Shanghai (don't know what to do about this tournament !)

I'll have some practical questions :
for example, last year, Hamburg was a masters. This year, at the place it will be Shanghai in october.
The week of Hamburg, will i delete the last year Hamburg (08) results or will i had Hamburg (09) in the best 5 and wait shanghai (09) to delete Masters Hamburg (08) points ? Not sure to be clear...
the new real system is working with 12 mandatory systems (4/4 Slams, 8/9 Masters) + 4 from category 500 and 2 from category 250 or challenger. those who qualify and play at Season End Championship (Shanghai, now London) will have 19th tournament.

last year it was 4+9+5 (+1 Shanghai).

i think that will be more precise and fair as it's in real and TT for example. but won't this cause you problems with ranking ? if no, i'm for it.

as for Hamburg: every tournament should fall of after 52 weeks exactly. so no need to wait for Shanghai this year to erase Hamburg.
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the new real system is working with 12 mandatory systems (4/4 Slams, 8/9 Masters) + 4 from category 500 and 2 from category 250 or challenger. those who qualify and play at Season End Championship (Shanghai, now London) will have 19th tournament.

last year it was 4+9+5 (+1 Shanghai).

i think that will be more precise and fair as it's in real and TT for example. but won't this cause you problems with ranking ? if no, i'm for it.

as for Hamburg: every tournament should fall of after 52 weeks exactly. so no need to wait for Shanghai this year to erase Hamburg.
Well then ranking should be based on
4 GS
8 best masters on 9
6 best other results. (Don't sure that make a difference between 250 and 500 event is really usefull and practical. Perharps best 6 others is enough.)
And then, masters for the ones who are in.

other point.
So after Hambourg this year, there will have 8/8 masters to be count until Shanghai (then best 8/9)
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Well then ranking should be based on
4 GS
8 best masters on 9
6 best other results. (Don't sure that make a difference between 250 and 500 event is really usefull and practical. Perharps best 6 others is enough.)
And then, masters for the ones who are in.

other point.
So after Hambourg this year, there will have 8/8 masters to be count until Shanghai (then best 8/9)
I like it better that way.
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Well then ranking should be based on
4 GS
8 best masters on 9
6 best other results. (Don't sure that make a difference between 250 and 500 event is really usefull and practical. Perharps best 6 others is enough.)
And then, masters for the ones who are in.

other point.
So after Hambourg this year, there will have 8/8 masters to be count until Shanghai (then best 8/9)
ok, i agree on 4+8+6 (+1)

as for Hamburg: last year Hamburg is at the same time as this year Madrid. also last year Madrid will be replaced by this year Shanghai. Only difference is the more time betweeen Shanghai (last year Madrid) and Paris. the lowest points from Masters will be excluded from the ranking.
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