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Old 02-12-2009, 07:44 PM   #61
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This show is every thursday on the morning and you have the podcast the evening. It's often interesting because of the guest and the journalist from l'Equipe who tell some "off".

Clement-Llodra is not an option imo. Arnaud is the best partner for Micka for me but Arnaud himself doesn't believe in a selection since he enters Cherboug. After some rounds in Rotterdam i would say in singles: Jo, Gilles & Gael and Micka for doubles but the problem is that you can't take Gilles or Gael in doubles lol Chardy as sparring partner is a good idea .

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Old 02-13-2009, 02:15 PM   #62
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I absolutely love Jo but must admit I am quite surprised by how quiet his forum is compared to Richard and Gilles. I only really got to watch Tsonga play over the summer and just liked him instantly. I have two young daughters who are driven mad by me wanting to watch tennis but Jo is the only player they actually like watching. My eldest even made me show her some of Jo's interviews in French (they don't like Richard at all! They think he's boring, I'm working on them!) so Jo has some support in this little corner of England.
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Noah was interviewed in l'Equipe about the DC :

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Yannick Noah, venu à Coubertin pour une exhibition en faveur de son association «Fête le Mur» et de l'anniversaire des dix ans de partenariat avec GDF Suez, est évidemment revenu sur sa venue éventuelle au sein de l'équipe de France de Coupe Davis. Et manifestement, l'idée est désormais très loin de faire son chemin.

«Comme tout le monde le sait, j'ai reçu un coup de fil de Guy Forget qui me proposait de venir avec lui pour la Coupe Davis. J'étais très excité à l'idée de revoir Guy déjà mais surtout de retrouver l'ambiance des vestiaires, mais après la réalité m'a rattrapé... En ce moment j'ai décidé de prendre le temps de m'occuper de mes enfants, je vis à New York et c'est ma priorité», a-t-il ainsi confié ce samedi. L'arrivée de Jean Gachassin à la tête de la fédération française le fait réfléchir mais sans rien de concret pour le moment. «C'est vrai qu'il y a eu un changement de direction à la fédération et que je suis en contact avec Jean Gachassin. J'ai été très sensible qu'on m'appelle, qu'on veuille de moi, mais pour faire quelque chose de bien il faut qu'on se connaisse, il faut connaître les joueurs. Je ne peux pas dire aujourd'hui que je ferai un bon entraîneur ou un bon capitaine de Coupe Davis, alors que je ne connais pas les joueurs. C'est très simple. Si un jour je devais m'investir et encore c'est très hypothétique car ce n'est pas dans mon esprit aujourd'hui, la première chose ce serait de connaître les joueurs.» Il dit connaître un peu Jo-Wilfried Tsonga et Gaël Monfils, bien connaître Richard Gasquet, mais c'est tout.

Noah est également conscient du fait que les nouvelles générations ne le connaissent pas vraiment et il trouve ça normal. «Je crois que c'est Simon qui a dit « je croyais qu'il était chanteur.» (rires). «Et je crois qu'avec le temps ce sera de pire, il y aura des générations de joueurs qui ne sauront pas qui je suis ! Mais c'est très bien ! La réalité c'est ça. Mais j'ai beaucoup aimé la réaction de Simon qui a dit qu'avec ou sans moi ils essaieraient de gagner la Coupe Davis. C'est très bien, c'est comme ça qu'il faut penser. Et puis même si l'idée de retrouver les vestiaires me tentait c'est vrai que tout a été très rapide et très surprenant et puis dans l'idée de prendre la place de Patrice (Hagelauer), il y avait quelque chose qui n'allait pas dans le script.» Sur un sourire, Yannick Noah prend congé de l'assemblée de journalistes venue à sa rencontre, se réjouit au passage de toujours se sentir comme chez lui quand il retrouve cette ambiance, et file retrouver les jeunes de son association qui l'attendent sur le court. Ses passions du moment sont seulement celle-là : son association et sa famille.

He felt very excited when Forget called him at the thought he could go back to the lockers room and find again the atmosphere of the DC that he likes so much. Then reality caught him : he lives in NYC, and his top priorities are his family and his association "Fête le mur". He's close to Jean Gachassin, the new French federation president, and he feels honored that people thought of him but if he does it he wants to do it well, and he can't if he doesn't know the players. He barely knows Jo & Gaël, a little more Richard but not at all Gilles. It would be a too huge investement of himself and he's not ready.

He finds it normal that the new generation doesn't really remember him as a player, he won Roland around the time where they were born. "I think it's Simon who said "I thought he was a singer"" And the more time passes, the more forgotten he will be in the youth's mind, and it's normal and perfect that way (because it means others are coming and they will do better than him, I suppose). "But I liked a lot Simon's reaction who said they would try to win the Cup with or without me. That's the way they have to think." amen to that



edit : link to the vid : http://video.lequipe.fr/video/iLyROoafJUoO.html

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:28 PM   #64
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Thank you Keijan. That remark of Gilles about Yannick being a singer is really funny.
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I doubt Simon was that ignorant. And me thinks his remark was more meant to be derogatory than funny. If I may put my two cents in, Noah is also well known for his fiery anti-sarko stance, something that might irk Gilles; most of the current active French players are definitely pro-sarko but few of them take an interest in politics like Simon does.
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He said that he wasn't even born when Noah won RG and he belongs more to the generation that knows Noah as a singer:
"Yannick, cela a été un grand monsieur du tennis, mais quand il a gagné son Grand Chelem, je n'étais pas né. Cela ne parle pas quand on ne l'a pas vécu. Je fais plus partie de la génération qui a connu Yannick comme chanteur que comme joueur de tennis. Comme il l'a dit lui-même, je ne le connais absolument pas."

I hadn't seen the video, thanks Marion. Noah calls all the guys by their first names except Gilles - but well, they've never talked to each other either.
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I doubt Simon was that ignorant. And me thinks his remark was more meant to be derogatory than funny. If I may put my two cents in, Noah is also well known for his fiery anti-sarko stance, something that might irk Gilles; most of the current active French players are definitely pro-sarko but few of them take an interest in politics like Simon does.

I think you're reading too much in it Natsume I'll try to find Simon's interview where he says that particular sentence (I think the video is on lequipe.fr) but he meant it in a funny way, it was only a joke. I think the exact words were "je pensais qu'il était chanteur maintenant" ("I thought he was a singer now"), then he laughed with the journalists. He was being more realistic than most of the French players (and a lot of other people, myself included I have to admit) : indeed Noah did great things, but it's been a long time since he last thought about tennis and there are people more suited than him for the job. Only Gilles was lucid (or honest ?) enough to recognise it. But I don't think he thought about anything political in there.

By the way, I knew about Gilles' strong attraction to politics, but what about the others, did they ever talk about who they were supporting ? I know Richard met Sarkozy when he was younger and Gaël did too during the Olympics but it doesn't mean much, and I never heard anything about Jo.
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Richard was supporting Sarko before the last elections. Sarkozy also mentioned him once in an interview (saying he sometimes plays tennis with his friends Santoro and Gasquet).

Gilles voted Sarko too.
Gaël refuses to answer the questions about politics, as far as I know.

Here's the article about Richard I meant:
Il votera Sarkozy, parce que son entraîneur, «qui connaît un peu Nicolas», le lui a fait rencontrer. «J'ai toujours été d'accord avec ses idées. Sarkozy président, ce serait très bien pour la France. Mais je ne connais pas Ségolène. Et je ne veux pas parler pour parler, je n'ai pas tous les éléments d'un homme de 40 ans.»
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I don't think Gilles has any animosity towards Noah either, he was just being honest. They asked him on the Moscato show last time, they told him he sounded a bit annoyed when he was asked about Noah in Melbourne, but he said he was just not too keen on having to answer tons of questions about Noah out of the blue in his post-match interviews since he had already said he doesn't know him at all.
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Gasquet est du genre (rare) à rendre les 30 000 euros de sa prime d'engagement à l'organisateur du tournoi de Marseille pour se faire pardonner un match pris par-dessus la jambe.
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Okay it's not too surprising that he's voting Sarko with all his bounds (and debts) towards Lagardère. I wonder where Gaël situates himself in politics, but it's something people like to keep private or among their closest friends so I understand he doesn't talk about it.

I remember Jo got asked a political question once (probably about Obama) and said something like "Now everyone wants to know my opinion about everything. But my opinion isn't more interesting today than it was yesterday and certainly not more important than the one of a random person in the street. At the end of the day, I'm only a tennis player, so let's speak about what I know well : tennis." Well said Jojo


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If Gillou can forget he was a tennis player, maybe Noah feels it's okay to mix up his surname and first name No I doubt there is any hard feeling left between them.

I can't find again that Gilles itw, but I'm sure I saw it somewhere not too long ago!
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He said that he wasn't even born when Noah won RG and he belongs more to the generation that knows Noah as a singer:
"Yannick, cela a été un grand monsieur du tennis, mais quand il a gagné son Grand Chelem, je n'étais pas né. Cela ne parle pas quand on ne l'a pas vécu. Je fais plus partie de la génération qui a connu Yannick comme chanteur que comme joueur de tennis. Comme il l'a dit lui-même, je ne le connais absolument pas."
Thanks Fran. Is that the original statement Noah was refering to?! Indeed, it is far and away more respectful and considerate than "je croyais qu'il était chanteur."! my bad. >_<

@ Keijan : I am useless to provide you a link but Llodra also had been pretty outspoken about his support to Sarko. Thanks for bothering searching for Gilles' interview, I'll probably stumble upon it by accident one of these days.
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Thanks Fran. Is that the original statement Noah was refering to?! Indeed, it is far and away more respectful and considerate than "je croyais qu'il était chanteur."! my bad. >_<
I don't know, Gilles complains he had to repeat the same thing all the time, so maybe he said it once in a more "tongue-in-cheek" way.
But that was his original statement about Noah in L'Equipe.

I really don't think Noah's political views are an issue here, French tennis is a bunch of Sarkotards, Jo would be my only "hope" in that regard (Gaël is so close to Lagardère and looked so delighted when he met Sarko, and I'll be shocked if "Paul-Henri" votes left). It doesn't prevent Richard & Co. from being big Noah fans.

Gilles just is very opiniated and independent, not his style to act as a Noah fanboy only because Noah is popular. He wants to make his own opinion and to be able to state it too.

(As for Mika, he's the opposite of Noah since he said he came back to France because Sarko was president:
http://www.vip-consulting.fr/mini_si...e_juin2008.pdf)
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French tennis is a bunch of Sarkotards..
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It doesn't prevent Richard & Co. from being big Noah fans.
So they are not that bad after all.
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Don't forget that Noah has been repeatedly voted "most popular french person" in the JDD poll. His popularity goes way beyond politics.
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Forget in L'Equipe today:
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GUY FORGET, à quinze jours du premier tour de Coupe Davis en République tchèque observe ses troupes à Marseille. Et met quelques points sur les i. Le teint hâlé après un weekend de ski, Guy Forget est arrivé mardi à Marseille. Objectif : passer en revue les candidats à l’équipe de France de Coupe Davis avec laquelle il entamera sa onzième campagne sur la chaise de capitaine face à la République tchèque, du 6 au 8 mars à Ostrava. L’occasion de remettre un peu d’ordre dans la maison bleue, chahutée par la prise de pouvoir d’une nouvelle génération de joueurs et les remous autour la nomination de son entraîneur, Lionel Roux.

« ON A BEAUCOUP PARLÉ de la Coupe Davis ces dernières semaines. La nomination d’un nouvel entraîneur, en remplacement de Patrice Hagelauer, a quasiment fait l’objet d’un débat national...
– Ce flou autour de la nomination de Lionel Roux, c’est moi qui l’ai le plus mal vécu. C’est devenu une affaire politique par la faute de cette guéguerre Lagardère-FFT, profondément stérile. Je ne peux pas concevoir que sur des questions touchant à la Coupe Davis, on entre dans ces considérations politiques.
– Vous n’avez pas été libre d’effectuer votre choix ?
– J’ai toujours mon mot à dire. Mais on était dans un contexte particulier. Patrice Hagelauer (salarié du Team Lagardère) était probablement la personne la meilleure à ce poste-là puisqu’il n’était pas impliqué avec un joueur. Mais aujourd’hui, il y a une nouvelle génération qui souhaitait avoir quelqu’un de plus jeune, plus proche d’elle.
– En coulisses, on a évoqué un duo Winogradsky-Tulasne (coaches respectifs de Tsonga et Simon). Pourquoi l’avoir écarté ?
– Je ne pouvais pas accepter une idée pareille. C’est la porte ouverte à tous les dérapages. Si demain je fais jouer Simon et Tsonga, que va dire l’entourage des deux autres sélectionnés ? C’est la polémique assurée.
– Finalement le choix s’est porté sur Roux, bien qu’il n’ait pas fait tout de suite l’unanimité auprès des joueurs...
– “Lio” était le meilleur candidat mais je n’ai jamais voulu passer en force. Un joueur a eu l’impression que Lionel avait été sévère dans ses commentaires (Roux est également consultant sur Canal +). Or il se trouve que ce n’était pas le cas, il y avait erreur sur la personne ! Tout a été mis à plat en Australie.
– Parlons des joueurs. Quatre d’entre eux (Simon, Monfils, Tsonga et Gasquet) sont dans le top 30, c’est une bénédiction pour vous ?
– Grâce à leur statut et leur niveau de jeu, ils ont quelque chose de très frais, une motivation, une assurance... C’est un peu une arme à double tranchant, ça peut leur mettre un surcroît de pression. Certaines de leurs réflexions me font sourire. C’est sain et plein d’enthousiasme mais la Coupe Davis, c’est un peu comme la descente de Kitzbühel à skis : un événement pas comme les autres.
– On a le sentiment que ce quatuor a pris le pouvoir, écartant définitivement l’ancienne génération...
– Jusqu’à présent, on ne parle que d’eux, c’est vrai. Mais attention, la Coupe Davis n’est pas l’affaire de quatre joueurs, c’est l’affaire de tous les joueurs français. On parle là de Llodra, de Mathieu, mais aussi pourquoi pas de Chardy ? Mon rôle, c’est de dire que tous ont une carte à jouer.
– Gaël Monfils est inscrit à Acapulco la semaine prochaine. Il est étrange d’aller jouer sur terre battue avec sept heures de décalage horaire la semaine précédant une rencontre sur rapide indoor...
– C’est juste. Ce n’est pas le planning idéal, mais maintenant c’est fait. Je lui ai dit : “ Soit tu gagnes le tournoi et tu arrives avec un capital confiance énorme, soit tu perds tôt et si t’es sélectionné, ce qui risque de se produire, tu rejoins vite le groupe et on fera avec. ” Je suggère des choses, mais je ne vais pas mettre un pistolet sur la tempe des joueurs !
– Concernant le double, il se dit que les jeunes préfèrent mettre le paquet sur les simples quitte à sacrifier le point du samedi...
– Certains peuvent faire les commentaires qu’ils veulent. Mais celui qui tranche c’est moi. Peut-être que je me tromperai dans mes choix, mais il est complètement idiot de dire qu’on va aller sur ce match en sacrifiant un point. Des joueurs qui jouent bien le double, tel que moi je l’entends, il n’y en a pas tant que ça : il y a Mika, Jo et Richard, les trois complémentaires qui pourraient jouer selon différentes formules. Derrière, si on écarte Clément du lot, c’est beaucoup plus friable. Je vais donc avoir des choix à faire. Une Coupe Davis se gagne à cinq ou six.
– Vous restez sur quatre défaites en quarts de finale. Avec cette équipe , l’attente va être énorme et la pression avec. Ça vous fait peur ?
– J’envie parfois Raymond Domenech qui joue des matches de poules pour la qualification à la Coupe du monde. Nous on en a un, c’est un couperet à chaque fois. Je croise souvent des gens qui me disent : “ Guy, cette année, tu nous gagnes la Coupe ! ” J’aime ces messages d’encouragements. Mais pour autant, les gars qui vont rentrer sur le terrain contre Berdych et Stepanek dans deux semaines... (Il prend sa respiration et souffle.) Ça va être chaud, quoi ! »
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