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Old 10-08-2009, 07:20 PM   #1
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Hi! This 2009 I've started studying Journalism. Started studying in TEA school of journalism in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Born on July 10th, 1984, I've studied Industrial Engineer and Business Administration before finding out tennis was what I wanted to do for a living. I started following tennis when Nalbandian got to the Wimbledon Final, prior to that, I remember watching the last years of Sabatini's career as well as a couple of Vilas' exhibitions during the early 90s.

Last month I got my first article published at the Buenos Aires Herald, the english newspaper of Argentina, on my freshman year in the media study.

Here is my first article: Mónaco becomes 2009 clay court leader
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/Bre...ews/View/12848

Today I wrote the second piece of news for the Herald: Injured Murray pulls out of Shanghai Masters
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/Bre...ews/View/14026

Ill add a list of my articles here!! Just in case anyone interested in reading a fellow MTF poster trying to break through the journalism world and maybe give me opinions, advices, support or constructive criticism tips.


This december Ill be travelling to London to stay for three months to better my english as well as staying at an aunt's house. Im also looking for a kind of related to journalism job. Any offer or advice on this would be appreciated as well.


My articles:

25/09/2009: - Mónaco becomes 2009 clay court leader
08/10/2009 - Injured Murray pulls out of Shanghai Masters




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I worked as a journalist for a few years in a daily newspaper. great experience.

are you interested in sport journalism exclusively or something wider?
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I worked as a journalist for a few years in a daily newspaper. great experience.

are you interested in sport journalism exclusively or something wider?

awesome!! how was the experience? why did you quit it??

wider.. ive written just for pleasure about politics.. and I also used to keep a travel journal.. i pretty much enjoy writing..

of course, if i have to choose, ill write about tennis but then again.. i really fancy writing about almost everything
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I used to be a boxing journalist for a couple of years. Interviewed some big names. Very proud of that experience. Something to look back on.

In the end, it wasn't for me. My lecturers at university couldn't have been more false. They formerly worked for some of the lowest tabloids in the country, yet they had the nerve to talk about journalistic ethics and show us All The President's Men, as though what they did was remotely comparable.

Good luck with it, though.
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Nice one man. Just started a MA in Journalism myself.

only paid writing I've done in the past was tennis match previews for tennisform. a well known site for gamblers, probably pretty unknown to everyone else.

made my print debut in the college paper this week. a brief article on Patrick Berger for the "Forgotten Footballers" section. wasn't my idea. don't think anyone has really forgotten berger but I agreed to do it cos it was piss easy. doing a couple of longer features for the next edition. one on roy keane's struggles at ipswich and another on match-fixing. latter is a nightmare. could write a thesis on tennis alone but have to keep it to like 800 words and write it for a pretty clueless audience. I'll upload some of them if there's any interest. all pretty mediocre stuff but I'm just feeling my way in.

interesting stuff clydey. seems my course is a product of it's time. most of the focus is on providing skills to help you get a job when you're done. modules on page layout stuff, shorthand and news writing. no talk of morals so far. one of them worked with the Mail so I hope he wouldn't fucking dare.
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coolstuff man. I know the Buenos Aires Herald.
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Nice one man. Just started a MA in Journalism myself.

only paid writing I've done in the past was tennis match previews for tennisform. a well known site for gamblers, probably pretty unknown to everyone else.

made my print debut in the college paper this week. a brief article on Patrick Berger for the "Forgotten Footballers" section. wasn't my idea. don't think anyone has really forgotten berger but I agreed to do it cos it was piss easy. doing a couple of longer features for the next edition. one on roy keane's struggles at ipswich and another on match-fixing. latter is a nightmare. could write a thesis on tennis alone but have to keep it to like 800 words and write it for a pretty clueless audience. I'll upload some of them if there's any interest. all pretty mediocre stuff but I'm just feeling my way in.

interesting stuff clydey. seems my course is a product of it's time. most of the focus is on providing skills to help you get a job when you're done. modules on page layout stuff, shorthand and news writing. no talk of morals so far. one of them worked with the Mail so I hope he wouldn't fucking dare.
Nice one. It's a very tough field to break into. Couple of my mates who got their BAs are struggling to get work. One of them, I think, is on the staff of the Daily Record. It's unpaid, though. He's writing shit for free around 2 years after getting his BA.

Yours sounds pretty similar to the first year of my BA, so I'm thinking it's the same level. We did shorthand, news writing, etc. We also had a law class on top of that. You will certainly get into ethics at some point. I just didn't like my lecturers, though. I ended up butting heads with one in particular. Real **** of a woman who would constantly boast about knowing George Galloway, ffs.

It can be a good laugh, though. Fuck me, one assignment had us rolling around on the floor. We were to look at pictures and come up with headlines. We ended up coming up with Arnie style puns for various natural disasters and tragedies. Completely insensitive, but funny as hell.
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Sounds exciting.. I somehow feel I might be a bit old (im 25) to start.. but then again, I find myself among the brightests in the class..

Thing is.. my learning is pretty limited as my school of journalism only focuses on football and I couldnt care less about it. I ve been sending my works to my teachers who work in newspapers about tennis and I dont get any reply. Fortunately I know someone at the Herald who has a different mentality from the usual Argie footballized one. The week before Del Potro won the US Open I wrote, apart from the usual football article excercise, an article about Del Potro in the QF and the open draw who should get him to the final. Explained his rivals, his chances and left an open question in an hypothetical final with Federer.

Usually we do excercises like.. get this data about this football club, put this and that result together, write about Boca, River Plate.. -argie clubs-,etc

The week Del Potro won the US Open we were asked to write an assignment about an hypothetical generic situation instead of writing about tennis.. The week after that, we wrote about Martin Palermo missing 3 penalties on a practise match in Boca... I hate it, though I see an oportunity behind, in the long long run.

My point is everything is pretty footballized here, and I feel very limited cos I couldnt care less about football.. I want to write about tennis and maybe politics, economics, or anything interesting. I think I am an average smart guy.. Im worried about the fact the job opportunities in press are limited, I know they pay almost nothing too (sadly I see it is the same for other countries )
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I should have become a journalist too...I surely have more talent writing about things than working with thwe law...
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awesome!! how was the experience? why did you quit it??

wider.. ive written just for pleasure about politics.. and I also used to keep a travel journal.. i pretty much enjoy writing..

of course, if i have to choose, ill write about tennis but then again.. i really fancy writing about almost everything
As you know I'm journalist 22 years (first 8 in sports). So wtg Fiberian.
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My point is everything is pretty footballized here, and I feel very limited cos I couldnt care less about football.. I want to write about tennis and maybe politics, economics, or anything interesting. I think I am an average smart guy.. Im worried about the fact the job opportunities in press are limited, I know they pay almost nothing too (sadly I see it is the same for other countries )
For journalists I get the impression the best career path (in terms of pay and ascension) is getting into Public Relations or corporate communication, even though it doesn't seem as exciting as writing articles and seeing them published.

At least here in Brazil a journalist can also get into diplomacy. There's a very difficult exam one has to pass at national level, and then the initial salary is quite good. The job seems exciting (you get to live in many different countries representing your own), even though growth opportunities are a bit limited. Don't know how it works in Argentina.
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Nice one. It's a very tough field to break into. Couple of my mates who got their BAs are struggling to get work. One of them, I think, is on the staff of the Daily Record. It's unpaid, though. He's writing shit for free around 2 years after getting his BA.

Yours sounds pretty similar to the first year of my BA, so I'm thinking it's the same level. We did shorthand, news writing, etc. We also had a law class on top of that. You will certainly get into ethics at some point. I just didn't like my lecturers, though. I ended up butting heads with one in particular. Real **** of a woman who would constantly boast about knowing George Galloway, ffs.

It can be a good laugh, though. Fuck me, one assignment had us rolling around on the floor. We were to look at pictures and come up with headlines. We ended up coming up with Arnie style puns for various natural disasters and tragedies. Completely insensitive, but funny as hell.
hehe, yeah realise it's gonna be bitch hard to get a career out of it. and yeah we got a law module in there. It's actually so interesting it makes me wonder why I never went into law straight up. actually, I remember now. I was a bum at school and didn't have a hope of hell in making the grades. only guy I know who did my course packed it in and went into primary school teaching. doesn't bode well but fuck it. I'm enjoying the course first and foremost. I'll worry about a job this time next year.
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Sounds exciting.. I somehow feel I might be a bit old (im 25) to start.. but then again, I find myself among the brightests in the class..

Thing is.. my learning is pretty limited as my school of journalism only focuses on football and I couldnt care less about it. I ve been sending my works to my teachers who work in newspapers about tennis and I dont get any reply. Fortunately I know someone at the Herald who has a different mentality from the usual Argie footballized one. The week before Del Potro won the US Open I wrote, apart from the usual football article excercise, an article about Del Potro in the QF and the open draw who should get him to the final. Explained his rivals, his chances and left an open question in an hypothetical final with Federer.

Usually we do excercises like.. get this data about this football club, put this and that result together, write about Boca, River Plate.. -argie clubs-,etc

The week Del Potro won the US Open we were asked to write an assignment about an hypothetical generic situation instead of writing about tennis.. The week after that, we wrote about Martin Palermo missing 3 penalties on a practise match in Boca... I hate it, though I see an oportunity behind, in the long long run.

My point is everything is pretty footballized here, and I feel very limited cos I couldnt care less about football.. I want to write about tennis and maybe politics, economics, or anything interesting. I think I am an average smart guy.. Im worried about the fact the job opportunities in press are limited, I know they pay almost nothing too (sadly I see it is the same for other countries )
hehe. you want a tennis article published? write one on anna kournikova. I'm not even joking. have one in the pipeline myself. she's a fascinating subject and there's always gonna be an interest there. gotta be realistic man, there just isn't a whole lot of public interest in tennis. gotta be clever to work your tennis knowledge in. a match-fixing article like I'm currently working on for example. just an excuse for me to write about tennis.

the "footbalized" (great word man) thing prob works in my favour. I'd like to broaden my own horizons too but football is probably the one subject (tennis excepted) where I feel a smug sense of superiority to established journalists.

hehe, actually illustrates your point when Palermo missing 3 penalties in training is actually a story. I mean did someone religiously watch boca training hoping to get a story or is it just made up?
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