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Old 11-12-2008, 05:38 PM   #511
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Why the hell has the GM thread about his group 10 pages? No way I'm going to read that.
I had only read that Murray needs to beat Federer, otherwise he's out. It was obviously a bit oversimplified. What are the other options?

now i really got pissed indeed!!!
/that's not happening every day but now i really start to losing my precious patience/

let as imagine that both Gillou and Fed win on friday - they will both have 2w and 1l.
ok who said that there are no other stats that could determine the second and third spots................sets, games ect??????
or is just that - Fed win and he goes to SF /that sounds ridiculous!!!!/

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Old 11-12-2008, 05:45 PM   #512
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let as imagine that both Gillou and Fed win on friday - they will both have 2w and 1l.
ok who said that there are no other stats that could determine the second and third spots................sets, games ect??????
That's what has been said in the ten pages thread by the experts there ,I haven't even read the official rules myself .

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Old 11-12-2008, 06:04 PM   #513
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Even though the next match might not mean a lot to Murray in terms of qualifying, I think it will be wise for him to beat the Federer now. That way he will surely knock him out of the tournament. Federer can pick up his form later in the knock out round and Muzza should think ahead to prevent that from happening.
Agreed. not to mention any victory against Federer is good for the career record.

If both Gillou & Federer lose in two on friday, is it possible for Mr.Vaidisova to make it to the semis using Roddick's result? ()
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That's what have been said in the ten pages thread by the experts there ,I haven't even read the official rules myself .
yes i know about that....but i'm so pissed by some comments that comes from GM thread to/or even here/: if Fed wins he goes to the semi's..............................
btw, talking of GM there are rumors circulating everywhere about possible withdrawal to Fed cos it's believed that he has some stomach problems /if u ask me he is simply suffering from a lack of stomach to fight but that's a different story to tell/
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:11 AM   #515
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He wonders how many UE Muzza made - certainly not many (Does anybody know?)
22, according to L'Equipe, quite a lot, actually. I had the same impression as Gilles during the match, it looked to me like Andy would never miss.

21 winners and 22 UE for Muzza, looks like very average stats, while I mean he was playing really well. (These stats don't tell you everything about a match, Puschkin. )
Only 14 winners for Gilles "James Blake" Simon, not much for a ballbasher, but Andy was bringing everything back.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:13 AM   #516
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Nothing new otherwise in their reactions, they explain in great detail why Muzza is tough to play for Gilles, but I think it was quite obvious if you've seen the match.

Tulasne says again that Gilles feels very, very fit, there was some BS posted in GM about him being tired, he never says that in interviews, on the contrary, they keep hoping he will play long matches because he feels full of energy since his arrival in Shanghai (en ce moment, Simon pète le feu. « Il a un jus incroyable et ne craint personne sur le pur combat physique, glisse “Tutu”. Et c’est le cas depuis notre tout premier jour à Shanghai. »)

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Gilles and Tulasne about the situation (= the fact that his own match doesn't count, only the result of Muzza-Fed will decide of his qualification):
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"An incredible situation: your own match is meaningless."
Gilles: Not meaningless. The qualification for the semi wasn't his only goal for this Masters Cup anyway. He definitely wants to win 2 matches. And it would also allow him to finish in the top 8, to be seeded in the top 8 at the AO, so it will be a very interesting match for him anyway. Even if he is already out of contention before the beginning of the match, he will be motivated to win it. Depending on the results of the matches in the other group, he can even finish #6 in the rankings if he wins on Friday, so it's a big match for him.
"Isn't it frustrating?"
It's unusual, but it's his fault, it was up to him to beat Murray. Same as in Bercy. It's weird, but he's the only one to blame.
"Are you going to talk with Andy and ask him to give his best effort against Fed?"
Gilles answers he doesn't have to, he has no doubt Andy will try to win. He has a lot of reasons to. For his ranking mainly. And also to get rid of Federer because Andy would certainly prefer to face maybe Gilles in the final rather than Fed!
He won't have any regrets anyway. He doesn't forget he's here just an alternate. It's his first TMC and he played a great match against Fed, he now knows he's able to play this king of big matches, so no regrets.
As for the match Fed-Murray, he thinks Andy is the favourite. But Roger is a big champion and always able to step up his game. He thinks Andy will win though - well, he couldn't have been more wrong in his predictions about Jo's matches, so let's hope he will be right this time.

And Tulasne says they've already sent the FFT physio to Murray to take care of him, to give him all the massages he wants, etc.
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And Tulasne says they've already sent the FFT physio to Murray to take care of him, to give him all the massages he wants, etc.

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if he takes all the massages he really needs then Fed definitely wouldn't have any chance against Muzza tomorrow
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He plays first tomorrow - good, I didn't want him to have to play his match just after having been kicked out of the event by a poor effort of Muzza or something like that:

Friday, November 14, 2008
Not Before 6:00 PM
R Stepanek (CZE) vs G Simon (FRA)
Not Before 8:00 PM
R Federer (SUI) vs A Murray (GBR)

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I find them very optimistic about Andy's motivation to win the match!
Yes, it will bring him a lot of advantages if he does and I have no doubt he will try to win if Fed looks shaky again. But Fed will probably start picking up his form after 2 matches and Andy can't play with the same intensity and rage as in a knock-out match. Nobody can blame him for that.

Fed clearly is the favourite for the bookies.

But I'm not sure Gilles is so sure about Andy's motivation either because he adds at the end of the interview with a smile in his voice "ça m'arrange de le penser" - "it suits me nicely/it's convenient for me to think so".
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His press conference, but nothing new:

November 12, 2008
Gilles Simon
SHANGHAI, CHINA
A. MURRAY/G. Simon
6-4, 6-2

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Have you heard about Andy Roddick pulling out?
GILLES SIMON: Yeah.

Q. What's your reaction to that? How do you think it affects your chances for qualifying?
GILLES SIMON: That doesn't change anything for me. I just have to win one more match. Even if it's not Roddick, if it's Stepanek that I have to play in two days, it's gonna be the same for me.

Q. Could you give us a view into next season going into 2009? How you see it panning out for you? And, of course, given the financial crisis, whether it has any concerns.
GILLES SIMON: Well, I didn't start to think about the next season. I just know that I want to play better in the slams. That will be my first goal. And then to stay in the top 10 players.
After, I don't know. I didn't think about it yet.

Q. In today's match you had the same chances to break, but you wasted too many chances. Why?
GILLES SIMON: Well, I don't know. I just missed all the opportunities I had today. Even if the score is tough for me, 6-4, 6-2, it was a long match, so that was a fight.
But, like you said, I missed all the opportunities I had. I could come back to four games all, and I missed some easy shots. Then it was the same in the second set: 1-0, three more chance to break, and I missed it again. So that's why I was really nervous at the end of the match.
But when you play these kind of players, it's never easy because he never miss a shot, so you have to play a good point to finish the game. I don't know how many unforced errors he did today, but should not be that much.
I really have to do every point. I have to play a winner shot to win every game, and I didn't manage to do it.

Q. Since Andy Roddick dropped out of the tournament, you'll be playing with Stepanek. Do you think that will be much easier to play with him compared to Andy?
GILLES SIMON: Well, I have a bad memory the last time I played against him. It was in the first round in Roland Garros. And, well, I don't know, it was 6-4, 6-2, 6-3, something like this, so it won't be easier for me (smiling).

Q. Can you just talk about the level of tennis that Andy Murray is playing at the moment. How well is he playing?
GILLES SIMON: How is he playing? He's defending every time, all the time. Plays always in the court, never outside. He's playing so slow.
But still he has a good serve, so it helps him in the important moments. But I know the way he play, because I play the same way a little bit. So I know what I can do to win against him. I just didn't manage to do it today.
But he's in good shape and he's really confident because he played -- he didn't miss anything. When I had the chance to come back, he didn't give me any point. And with that level, of course, he's really hard to defeat.

Q. From Love-4 down in the first set, did you change anything to break back? Did you change anything about your game, or did you just execute it better?
GILLES SIMON: Well, the first set was really hard for me because I lost the two first games. They were really important because it was long. We played very good tennis during those games, and finally I lost the first fight of the match.
Then I was a little bit lucky to come back, because it could be five games to love for him, and finally I played better. My tactic was better. I was not playing too fast. I was playing slower.
But then when I decided to accelerate, I just gave everything. I could do the difference like this. In the four first games, I was playing just like he wanted: right-left, right-left, with a good rhythm. But then it was difficult to surprise him. I did that better at the end.
But finally, like I said, I missed some easy shot when it was 4-3, Love-30 on his serve. That's why I lose that set.

Q. This is the first time you have played in the Masters Cup. Is the feeling different than playing in other tournaments like Grand Slams or other Masters Series?
GILLES SIMON: Well, for me it's the same because I'm discovering new sensation. It was already the same in Madrid when I played the semis and then the final. It's a nice feeling to play here because the stadium is wonderful. I'm playing good. I'm playing the best player in the world, so that's why I'm playing tennis (smiling).
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Andy can't play with the same intensity and rage as in a knock-out match. Nobody can blame him for that.

Fed clearly is the favourite for the bookies.
I think the same ,I doubt that Murray will be that motivated .Anyway we'll see tomorrow..
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I think Andy will be motivated. Its extra money, points and you can see he's so competitive, doesn't matter if its an ehibition, he's going out there to win. I hope.
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Plus, he's playing against Federer. The rivalry among the top players in the sport would probably make them less likely to tank matches against each other. For sheer pride, I think Murray will try to beat him.
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Plus, he's playing against Federer. The rivalry among the top players in the sport would probably make them less likely to tank matches against each other. For sheer pride, I think Murray will try to beat him.

oh he will try that's for sure!!!
my only hope is not with the same success as Nole against Jo, 6-1 in the first set and then............ (THE DJOKER continues to try in the semi's )
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