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Old 12-24-2009, 03:41 AM   #91
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Tell me this is a joke! So much for not pushing too fast! No doubting that the kid is going to be good but he doesn't have a ATP point! What is going on with TA? YOu gotta feel for the other older players that have had a great year. I can feel another Donald Young happening.... what a joke.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:54 AM   #92
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Kubler won't develop into another Donald Young. There are so many differences between them with the key ones being the attitude and work ethic. I would have chosen other players ahead of Kubler as well but the other ones still have a chance to qualify.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:36 AM   #93
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Have to agree with Tenys4 Eva.... isnt this kid 16 ?

Isnt it Tennis Australia , and the Davis Cup coaches who say they don't want to get carried away ????

Didn't James Duckworth age 17 beat him. At least then give him a go if so desperate on this youth policy, but to jump Ebden who has had such a great Pro circuit, ( the reason the rewarded Molik ) wheres the youth policy there ?
Hensel, Millman, Marinko , Ried, ,Klein the list goes on... sorry to the other good players I missed... so many of them.

Huge call by Woodbridge.

. What do you earn for a first round ?
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:54 AM   #94
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I would have chosen other players ahead of Kubler as well but the other ones still have a chance to qualify.
Don't know Kubler well enough - you obviously have more insight into him. However, i believe he should pay his dues - i believe he should fight his way through qualies at the very least - why are we giving him this gift at such a young age? He doesn't have any atp points - i am sure he is a talented "junior" player. Fantastic. Why this mad panic to accelerate him when there are other more worthy "senior" players who have proven themselves over and over again this year. Sorry jmf07 i often agree with you - but feel TA have really put one over the other boys. I am sure there are many boys out there tonight who are furious and I agree, rightly so!
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:56 AM   #95
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Not liking this decision by TA. They could have given Jason a qualifying wildcard, and someone else more deserving a MD WC.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:23 AM   #96
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How is Matt Ebden feeling tonight I wonder?
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:44 AM   #97
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Not liking this decision by TA. They could have given Jason a qualifying wildcard, and someone else more deserving a MD WC.
Couldn't agree more,
The thing that really bothers and worries me is Tennis Australia seem to think ATP rankings count fro nothing. Yes Qually who ever they want
but surely players who spend the time and effort getting their own asses around the world to get their points are being highly disrespected in this country.
It seems if some one is not ranked Tennis Australia will get them ranked by W/C gifts if it suits them.
I can not see this country ever having depth again when they do this sort of thing.
It is very deflating to the players who have had to go out and earn their own rankings going through Qually if they need to.

TA state that Kubler has a great attitude and work ethic, well so do a lot of players, and in fact some players might come across as having
a shit house attitude , but that is on " personal judgment ", why must tennis players have a personality Tennis Australia approve of ?

Isn't it ever enough that a player is a good player. earns his own points etc anymore. Must we for ever be in the search or prediction of the next great player and had them it all on silver platters .... If you ask me we will never have player while this goes on.

This is deflating to all players in Australia right now. What must one do to EARN their way ?
I wouldn't be suprised if by next year we have a 15 year old getting the W/ C it seems to be getting more ridiculous each year the past four years.

yeah JFM the " others have a CHANCE to Qually "

Thats weird statement if you ask me !!!

but does that statment make it right , so is Kubler " too good " to have to Qually.

If it is the experience which TA say will be good for him why not make him Qually then he might have the " chance " of more than one match at the AO.

I can not see one good reason why this is good for ANYONE. Other than the prize money which is a huge gift. Or maybe it could help to give Kubler an edge with publicity for the Aus Oepn juniors ?
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How is Matt Ebden feeling tonight I wonder?
The country is feeling it for a lot of players tonight I am sure....
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:23 PM   #99
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By no means do I agree with giving Kubler a maindraw wildcard ahead of others (there are probably about 10) but I was refering to the comparison between him and Donald Young and how he won't develop into another Donald Young. I think it is a poor decison by TA to expose him to this level so early and could do his development alot of harm eg. what happens if he draws a big name on centre court and gets thumped in front of a packed arena with a large television audience.

I don't think the other guys should get too hung up about it. We saw from last year that Tennis Australia are like this. The last two wildcards could have gone to a heap of players and out of them it is fair to say that none were certain of getting one and all were probably planning on going through qualies anyway. Sure there would have been a part of them thinking maybe I might get one but so were a number of other players. Perhaps they were more entitled than Kubler but none were certainities and if they thought they were they were kidding themselves.
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Ok we could moan and bitch about this for hours but the fact is Kubler has the WC and that will not change. Bernard/Brydan doing well (better than Lleyton) at last years AO would be a big thing for this decision I would say. Last year Peter Luczak was not handed any wildcards into any Aussie events which in retrospect could be said was a bad decision but TA did it and they are going to keep pushing this.

Obviously Tomic and Kubler are the two big big players TA are going to keep on trying to really develop and Tomic has really lead the way for Kubler in a lot of respects. I dont expect Kubler to win a round at the AO, hes almost a definite starter for Brisbane now and probably will even get a quali WC into Sydney. The biggest thing for Kubler tho is having a very strong showing at the Aus Open juniors and gaining the number one junior ranking. If he does both this summer he will get entry into any future tournament in the world that he wants to play (junior exempt) and should have quite a good year.

I can honestly see the exact same thing happening in 2011 with Luke Saville. Luke will probably play AO qualies this year which is probably the better way to approach the situation, and that was the way Bernard went. Bernard got quali WC into AO 2008 then main draw WC in 2009 where as Kubler is just going straight into MD which is questionable but I think he wont get completely embarassed and should really help him for 2011.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:00 PM   #101
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Yeah your right Matchu we could bitch and moan forever.....

I will just be very interested to see where we are as nation in the second week of the Aus Open, since Tennis Australia have been under Tiley and now Woodbridge, determined to put all their eggs, chairs, tables , hats, kia cars, coaches , publicity and tax payers money, into a hand full of juniors...

I guess since they have chosen to manage so few players this is the way it will be

For the rest of the players I hope they win tatts... get good sports agents and own a newspaper.... then their results might count for something too.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:49 PM   #102
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This years Wimbledon last 8.

Federer 28 years old.
Hewitt 28 years old.
Roddick 27 years old
Murray 22 years old
Djokovic 22 years old
Ferrero 29 years old
Karlovic 30 years old
Haas 31 years old
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Old 12-25-2009, 12:35 AM   #103
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The main concern here is if he draws one of the big six and gets absolutely hammered (which is a big possibility) it won't help him at all. How is a sixteen year old going to cope being embarrassed in front of such a large audience most of whom are unaware as to the enormity of his junior achievements and will remember him after the match as the boy who got thumped. The tennis court will be one of the last places he wants to be. It is simply way too early and there is just as much danger of doing harm to his career than there is of it being good.
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I'm glad there has been such a backlash when Kubler received a wild card. I bet they thought 'Tomic was only 16 and won a match so why not Kubler'. The answer to this is many things including Tomic had already won the junior Australian Open a year earlier. I think Kubler would have really benefited by playing the qualies and TA have actually prevented him from that. I just hope he gets a very easy draw so he's not embarrassed.
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If everybody pretty well thinks this kid is going to get absolutely spankied out there then tell me why TA would do it to him? As jmf07 said there are boys out there who have played there heart out all year in Futures, Challengers etc in the hope that their efforts at the end of the year will be rewarded. How would they be feeling now, Jones, Ebden etc. I am at a loss to understand why TA regard this level of player as washed up. As shown by aceventura stats above these boys are far from being washed up.

And for Kubler to be given the ultimate prize above these boys must be heartbreaking for them. Ta are a joke - besides the financial remuneration that that mD wc gives them - i guess if they are ais players TA get to keep their half as well!

The boys who thought they were in the mix for the MD WC must be shaking their heads - and next he will definitely get into Brisbane and maybe Sydney. The boy has been given a wc into two futures and had to qualify for another one and hasn't one a round and lost to Chaplin.

My god, where is TIley adn woodbridge taking us too....

Anyway bad luck you boys who missed out - fight back with your racquets - look at Lindahl's gutsy effort against Tomic - wow - i just thought - i wonder if he would have received a MD WC if he had lost that match. No doubt Kubler was predetermined.
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