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Old 11-08-2009, 10:45 AM   #31
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:40 AM   #32
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bernard is away ahead of kubler.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:35 AM   #33
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Tomic may be ahead of him at the moment but Kubler's improvement this year has been greater than Tomic's.
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:57 AM   #34
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Tomic may be ahead of him at the moment but Kubler's improvement this year has been greater than Tomic's.
that is not true. bernard won US Open and played in semis on Wimbledon this season. what did this guy do on majors?
bernard won challenger (3rd youngiest champion ever) and raised to top 300 this season. what did this guy do in seniors? he hasn't MD win. and he is younger only 7 months. bernard won challenger before 8 months. where is kubler's challeneger? also tomic has Australian Apen title and one more semis in Wimbledon (and quaters in RG) from last year.
kubler is very good but if you want to compare him with bernard he needs to have one junior grand slam at least. he has not.
i know you are in euphory because of new young promise but need to be realistic.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:06 PM   #35
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If Tomic played Kubler right now Tomic would almost be a certainty to win. All I am saying is that at the beginning of the year after the Aus Open and Melbourne Challenger I think everyone thought Bernard was going to go on and make great inroads on the senior tour but his results have definitely been below expectations. As for the GS well I think he was already capable of that prior to this year. In 2008 he won an Aus Open, made QF of French Open and the SF of Wimbledon. This year he won the US Open, made R16 at the French and made the SF of Wimbledon.

Compare that to Kubler who has made massive improvements on the junior tour. Just look at his ranking. At the beginning of the year he couldn't get past the first round of top quality junior tournaments such as the Nottinghill International and Australian Open but now 10 months on he would head into these tournaments as one of the favourites if not the favourite.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:29 PM   #36
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i will repeat: tomic is away ahead of kubler.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:57 AM   #37
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It's official; Kubler is now #4 in the world junior rankings. If you just count the six best results of this year (plus doubles), then Kubler is second only to Roland Garros boys champ Daniel Berta.
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Why has this dissolved into a Tomic vs Kubler debate?

As Petar Pan says, Tomic has done way more than Jason has at the present time. You simply can't compare them at the moment.

But IMO, Kubler has more talent that Tomic and in the long run, he could end up the better player

At the end of October, Kubler's junior ranking was 106, he is now No.4...pretty impressive stuff
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Why has this dissolved into a Tomic vs Kubler debate?

As Petar Pan says, Tomic has done way more than Jason has at the present time. You simply can't compare them at the moment.

But IMO, Kubler has more talent that Tomic and in the long run, he could end up the better player

At the end of October, Kubler's junior ranking was 106, he is now No.4...pretty impressive stuff

kubler has really great jump.but you said you didn't watch any kubler's match. how do you know he is more talented than bernard?
and you forgott one boig thing: self-confidence. tennis is all about self-confidence.
tomic has that alot. just loook in his FUCKING UNBELIEVBLE AMAZING TB record in seniors (and he played last TB as 16 old boy).
i am pretty sure tomic is more talented but even is he is not he is great prospect and has great head so he will achieve more.
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I don't think it is a competition between who's the more talented player. Just appreciate the good results Kubler is having.
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kubler has really great jump.but you said you didn't watch any kubler's match. how do you know he is more talented than bernard?
and you forgott one boig thing: self-confidence. tennis is all about self-confidence.
tomic has that alot. just loook in his FUCKING UNBELIEVBLE AMAZING TB record in seniors (and he played last TB as 16 old boy).
i am pretty sure tomic is more talented but even is he is not he is great prospect and has great head so he will achieve more.
I grew up playing against and watching them both. So I think I am pretty well qualified to 'judge' who is the more naturally talented player.

What makes you think Jason has less self confidence than Tomic? Just because he hasn't achieved anything on the main tour yet means he has no less self confidence...

Jason has a big forehand, a great serve, a solid backhand and good movement. He really rips the ball. Tomic on the other hand has a great backhand, a potentially strong forehand, a powerful first serve (but not much of a second) and average movement. All in all, I would say that Bernard's clear edges are in his tactical play and his experience
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I don't think it is a competition between who's the more talented player. Just appreciate the good results Kubler is having.
I agree.
It will be interesting to see how Jason goes in the WA futures.
I think TA will also invite him to play the AO Playoff in December.

I expect AT LEAST a qualifying wildcard for the Brisbane International. Depending on how he goes in the next few seniors events, he will also get a qualifying wildcard for the AO
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I agree.
It will be interesting to see how Jason goes in the WA futures.
I think TA will also invite him to play the AO Playoff in December.

I expect AT LEAST a qualifying wildcard for the Brisbane International. Depending on how he goes in the next few seniors events, he will also get a qualifying wildcard for the AO
He will get wildcards into both WA futures and Bendigo future and unless he draws seeds everytime I can't see him not gaining an ATP point at one of the three futures events. He will definetly be playing the AO playoffs thats for sure.

As for Brisbane one of the maindraw wildcards is definetly going to Bernard, I'd say it is fairly likely Carsten Ball will get one of them and the last one could go to an international player with not a very high ranking like Baghdatis last year but they do like to promote Queensland players at the Brisbane International so perhaps Kubler being born and raised in Brisbane will get him over the line in that respect. I certainly hope they give it to him, not that I think he will win a round though considering the strong field that is going to show up.

As for the Australian Open there is no way they could not give him a qualifying wildcard, if you look into it we have 5 wildcards for Australian players. Chris Guccione will get one, Carsten Ball will get one, Bernard Tomic will get one and after that it is guesses between Matosevic, Groth, Jones, Klein. I would say unless Jason wins one of the upcoming futures then he will not get a main draw wildcard but I think that is a good thing when you consider he will most likely play a less advanced player in the qualy draw and has a good chance to gain some points.

I'm going to predict that next year Jason will have a fairly big result at the Australian Open if not win and will spend most of the rest of the year playing future tournaments around Europe and the US while playing all four Grand Slams in the juniors before returning to Australia this time next year with a similar ranking to Bernard now and then he will be in line for a Australian Open main draw wildcard.
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It all depends how Kubler does over the next month or 2 on the futures circuit. If he plays well, I suspect he will get a wildcard. He plays at the Esperance International in Western Australia next week.
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Kulber is NOT in the qualifying draw for the Australia F9 so I think that means he's gotten a main draw wild card .
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