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Old 01-07-2010, 09:54 AM   #151
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Hey Quiet Confidence whilst I appreciate your support for Kubler one also has to consider the lot of the other players out there. I do not feel that it is appropriate to "gain vital experience in the AO Main Draw to assist in controilling his nerves for a AO Junior final"". This is a Australian Open MAIN draw - something players w9rk their heaarts out for years. It is naive to think that there is not going to be resentment. Every Aussie player will be out to show TA and Woodbridge what a contentious decision this was.

And as for the AO Final - I hope he does get that far but aren't we once again assuming too far - whqt happerne4d to the old öne match at a time""! Now everyone expects him to win Junior title because he received Main Draw.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:11 AM   #152
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Yes and as far as any one making it past second round , wel wouldnt you like Ebdens cahnces after winning a round at brisbane yet until then and after doing so well at the furtues,
yeah like winning them he didnt get a look in before Tomic who lost to a qualifier and Kubler who hasnt won a round of futures.

Not to mention if they want to settles his nerves for juniors wouldnt it better to let him play three qualifying rounds then play his first round in the mens from there ?

Tomic would be a better player if he players three rounds of qually to at the age of 16 , in fact even though he won first round last year, i dont think he would have got through three rounds to make it in the first place, so why do higher ranked players or more proven have to go through that all the time.

It was a joke that Lindahl won the play off yet tomic got main draw Brisbane and Lindahl had to qually, but lindahl will be the better player for it and have more matches under his belt,

All TA are thinking about is fast tracking their players as said in that article some one posted but by handing them w/cs for points aint going to make any of these young ones better players, as they will have to play outside of Australia like these other guys have had to around the world one day where TA dont have all the control.

If this is the way TA want to bring on their juniors then good luck to them i say.

I think kubler is a great junior player I just hope he falls into the hands of some one with common sense .

Giving tomic all these W/cs over the past year didnt get him any further this year did it ?
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I agree Tomic should have played qualifiying at the Australian Open last year but i think the win over Starace got him some confindence but when he got a wildcard into Roland Garros main draw that was a mistake because he was never going to beat Kohlschreiber, then when he played a couple of challenger events in America he didn't get any good results.

But Dolgopolov is a great player he proved it in the second round of the Brisbane International against Stepanek.

Alright now to Kubler he is by far our best junior accept for Tomic but he isnt the number 4 in the world of juniors if you look at the list of players behind him they are just as good but some of them have got good results in junoir grand slams. But hopefully he still plays the Aus Open juniors because he is capable of maybe winning it getting to the quarters or semis
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:58 PM   #154
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I agree Tomic should have played qualifiying at the Australian Open last year but i think the win over Starace got him some confindence but when he got a wildcard into Roland Garros main draw that was a mistake because he was never going to beat Kohlschreiber, then when he played a couple of challenger events in America he didn't get any good results.

But Dolgopolov is a great player he proved it in the second round of the Brisbane International against Stepanek.

Alright now to Kubler he is by far our best junior accept for Tomic but he isnt the number 4 in the world of juniors if you look at the list of players behind him they are just as good but some of them have got good results in junoir grand slams. But hopefully he still plays the Aus Open juniors because he is capable of maybe winning it getting to the quarters or semis
Yes, Tomic was never going to beat Kohlschreiber, but TA didn't know that he was going to draw him. That said, I don't think Tomic would have beaten a single player in the Roland Garros main draw last year. A lot of the reason he beat Starace is because he had home court advantage and a favourable court surface, neither of these advantages were with him at Roland Garros.

Playing qualies is quite often more beneficial than the main draw and TA should appreciate this. For example, Tomic got two qualifying wins last year at Wimbledon meaning valuable experience and 14 ranking points. Had he just been wild carded into the main draw he probably would have lost off the bat hence the qualies were much better for him in the instance. The same applies for Kubler this year at the Australian Open.

You're right about Kubler's junior ranking. As much as I hate to say it, Kubler's junior ranking is a bit inflated. His wins in Australiasia may have been in high profile events (A, B1 etc), but not against high profile players. He rarely had to beat someone ranked in the top 20 and is yet to even win a match in a junior Grand Slam. The Australian Open boys' championship should be a good to see where he is really at.
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Old 01-08-2010, 05:08 AM   #155
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Kubler's ranking is inflated but his wins at the junior Davis Cup and Osaka Mayor's Cup should not be underestimated. They were very good wins.
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When I think of Kubler, I think of Tomic's performances last year and they were far beter than that of Kublers at the age of 16.
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Kubler's ranking is inflated but his wins at the junior Davis Cup and Osaka Mayor's Cup should not be underestimated. They were very good wins.
True they were very good wins but you cant compare them to Tomic when he was sixteen. Kubler, Saville, Duckworth, Chaplin, Swaysland and Bolt i think will be the big Australian names this year in both juniors and mens but Alex Bolt needs to play more tennis next year and really do well at the AUS OPEN juniors, Saville is only 15 but he will get a wildcard into 2011 AUS OPEN and he'll have a great year in juniors and the mens he'll crack the top 1000, Duckworth is probably the second best Aussie under 18 first being Tomic, Duckworth will get a great results AUS OPEN juniors maybe could make the final or semis and he showed his skill at the wildcard play off. Swaysland maybe will get some great results his capable of doing it but its just a matter of believing in yourself thats wat he needs to do. Chaplin needs to play in future tournaments next year to get some confidence up and just more matches into him against some other young Aussies.

Jason Kubler will do better at the Mens AUS OPEN then he did at Brisbane against Matt Reid, this guy obviously knows how to play and i think when his got a crowd behind him and playing at the big stage will do him well, alot of people on this thread have said TA made a mistake picking him for a wildcard but his our top ranked junior so you have to give him credit for that but if they had just didnt give him a wildcard into the maindraw then he would of still been in the qualifiying but everyone knows that he wouldnt have made it through three matches its just like Tomic last year if he was in the qualifiying then he wouldnt have made it to the main draw regardless of the draw that he was given. So that pretty much says that Saville will get a wildcard next year unless Kubler can get to top 750 or 500 in the mens or better. But when you look at his results in the three future tournaments his played the two good players in Smeets and Propoggia he got a set off both of them but against Kris Bala...... he lost 6-2 6-3 so by that im guessing that he'll do better at the big stage and for me the last wildcard will now go to Ebden

The Qualifiying wildcards will go to Sirianni, Junaid, Smeets, Lemke, Hensel, Ebelthite, M.Reid, Saville and Duckworth
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Yeah you can't compare him to Tomic. As for Duckworth being the second best junior, I think Kubler and Mitchell are ahead of him and Duckworth simply benefited from having the luck and form going his way for the Wildcard Playoff.
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Yeah you can't compare him to Tomic. As for Duckworth being the second best junior, I think Kubler and Mitchell are ahead of him and Duckworth simply benefited from having the luck and form going his way for the Wildcard Playoff.
Oh sorry forgot all about Mitchell but do you know if Duckworth is playing in Sydney or is he playing in the Aussie junior tournament and who are Kubler and Mitchell ahead of and have you ever heard of Alex Bolt he was in the u 16s australian tournament when the wildcard play off was on
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Jason has got to play Rajeev Ram in the first round of qualifying of sydney he wont win but could put up a fight hopefully he plays well then he might notch up a win then thats not bad preperation for the AUS OPEN i thought he was playing juniors this week

Well good luck to him he will need it.
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Jason has got to play Rajeev Ram in the first round of qualifying of sydney he wont win but could put up a fight hopefully he plays well then he might notch up a win then thats not bad preperation for the AUS OPEN i thought he was playing juniors this week

Well good luck to him he will need it.
Am i the only one who thinks it is strange that Kubler has received another wildcard (usually reserved for hometown boys or boys who have had great results ie ebden matosevik jones) - didnt he get his opportunity in Brisbane Int - his state? What the hell is going on? It looks like TA is just set up for Tomic and Kubler. Well done to the others - your results have justified it.
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James Duckworth definitley deserved one but your right why did Kubler get one. He was always going to get one into Brisbane Qualies cause home town but where is Samuel Groth his wife is in the womens qualies and where is carsten ball is he just resting for the AUS OPEN and i know that Smeets isnt from NSW but he should of got a wildcard instead of Jones or Kubler and what is Matt Reid's hometown and i think that Kubler isnt as good as Saville
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James Duckworth definitley deserved one but your right why did Kubler get one. He was always going to get one into Brisbane Qualies cause home town but where is Samuel Groth his wife is in the womens qualies and where is carsten ball is he just resting for the AUS OPEN and i know that Smeets isnt from NSW but he should of got a wildcard instead of Jones or Kubler and what is Matt Reid's hometown and i think that Kubler isnt as good as Saville
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Groth might still be injured. Not sure about Smeets and Reid is from NSW - he crushed Kubler last week 6063! So why would they pick Kubler? Tennis selections have over the years been controversial but this just smacks of favouritism yet again. Why don;t they make these players earn their position like others have to.
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I by no means agree with TA's decision to give him a WC into the main draw of the Australian Open, however they are doing the correct thing by giving him qualifying WCs into these events (Brisbane, Sydney) - it is good preparation for the higher level. He obviously isn't ready for grand slams, but TA can't back down their decision now - atleast they are showing they have confidence in him.
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I by no means agree with TA's decision to give him a WC into the main draw of the Australian Open, however they are doing the correct thing by giving him qualifying WCs into these events (Brisbane, Sydney) - it is good preparation for the higher level. He obviously isn't ready for grand slams, but TA can't back down their decision now - atleast they are showing they have confidence in him.
Perhaps Audacity - perhaps they should have given more thought to their in initial decision - is great they are showing confidence in nhim but what about the players that have missed out on a wildcard opportunity this year who might have benefitted? And the joke is that next year those same players will probably be deemed to old.

To me it is has been an immense stuff up just because they want to fast track young players. This obsession they have with early maturers is so short sighted and only Aust Tennis will suffer. Woodbridge/Tiley have a lot to answer for if this kid crashs and burns.
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