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Old 07-09-2007, 04:04 AM   #1
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Default The Luthi and Federer's Coach discussion thread

After parting ways with Tony, Fed wanted to find a new coach after Wimbly. Well, Wimbly is over so get all your rumors in here.

I am actually very interested in his choice because that choice may well be the difference between less than 15 slams and 15+ slams with an FO thrown in.

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:12 AM   #2
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I'm going with Cahill as the choice
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Default Re: Who will be Fed's new coach?

Was it true that he wanted Cahill in '05 but had to settle for Roche?

I hope he could get Cahill. Maybe that would be the coach who could drive him to RG glory.
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Default Re: Who will be Fed's new coach?

i dont know if cahill is the best choice to coach roger.

if i could choose anyone. its paul anacone. Anacone was able to help pete sampras during his most difficult times and was able to convey useful advice to a very stubborn champion. Federer is no different to sampras in the way they approach matches. They both want to play one way and one way only. Fed is probably more tactical and more aware of the opponent than pete was.

anacone also seems to be very laidback and this will suit roger. anacone wrote an article for tennis magazine and i was very impressed with his insight into the mind of champions(pete) and into federer's mindset and game cahill seems to be a coach who can instill professionalism and help with off court training. i dont think roger needs this.

fed needs a coach who is well-versed in the mental aspect as well as the tactical. Anacone is a no-brainer for me. He is like a professor.

tony roche seemed to be coach who could improve technique. As roger ages, this part will not be as important.
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Default Re: Who will be Fed's new coach?

cahill as well but I think he doesnt want to coach Roger
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Default Re: Who will be Fed's new coach?

Whoever he is, he'd better to come up with a realistic game plan against Nadal. Crippled Misha and Joker are able to take sets off him, but rested and healthy, but scared Fed provides such a drama on his favorite surface. It's annoying.
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Roger said in one of his Wimbledon pressers that he would like to S&V a lot more but didn't think he would win as much if he did. I hope he's willing to choose someone who will be honest with him and someone who will push him hard to get to net more. Anyone who will tell him over and over again to get rid of this determination to beat Nadal from the baseline.
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Roger said in one of his Wimbledon pressers that he would like to S&V a lot more but didn't think he would win as much if he did. I hope he's willing to choose someone who will be honest with him and someone who will push him hard to get to net more. Anyone who will tell him over and over again to get rid of this determination to beat Nadal from the baseline.
its not that simple just to come to net. Roger can beat nadal from the baseline but he needs to realize the way to do it. he cant kamikaze the net...he will get killed.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:24 AM   #9
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Roger said in one of his Wimbledon pressers that he would like to S&V a lot more but didn't think he would win as much if he did. I hope he's willing to choose someone who will be honest with him and someone who will push him hard to get to net more. Anyone who will tell him over and over again to get rid of this determination to beat Nadal from the baseline.
I disagree on this part against anyone else this tactic works but against Rafa it doesnt. The surfaces dont play like they used to, just see how much Tiger Tim gets passed when he plays against Rafa, and he IMO has the best volleys on the mens circuit.


I am not saying that he shouldnt volley at all, but he needs to do it very carefully as Rafa has some of the most mindblowing passing shots from any position on court. What Roger needs is a coach who instills belief and fire in him, you can hear it in his interviews but I feel he really needs to assert it on court. There was a time when players used to fear playing him, now I feel it has shifted, mainly due to his demeanour. He doubts himself and his shots, and doesnt look as confident as he was say in 2004.

I personally still really like Lungren, he exudes his passion openly and he has a good flair for the game.
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Federer showed how to attack the net in the modern game at the Australian Open of all places. He attacked the net wonderfully the entire tournament there. Despite not having his serve, the rest of his game was on full display. Flattened strokes taken early followed by forays into net.

Simply put, Federer is afraid of going to net against Nadal because of the ridiculous passing shots Nadal hits. Federer's favorite approach is the FH DTL to a right-handed player's BH. This shot goes to Nadal's FH and Nadal comes up with crazy winners with it. Therefore you have Fed's favorite approach neutralized. He had some good approaches today but Nadal came up with crazy winners. If you look at the stats, Federer won the last set and only came to net 2 or 3 times. Fed has great hands at net and I have seen him every type of volley imaginable. The problem is that he doesn't cover the net all that well (something he admitted to when first working with Roche) and doesn't have great net instincts of where the ball is going on the passing shot. He hesitates and on important points doesn't trust himself or fully believe in himself at net.

Fed showed how to beat Nadal from the baseline in Shanghai where he controlled the points with his FH. He was NOT pushed around like he was today and he returned serve at lot better. Very few dumps into net and weak returns where Nadal's 1st FH would pummel the ball and run Federer from side-to-side. He was also successful in Hamburg by taking the FH early band being aggressive with it. Pushing the ball like he did will earn him losses on all surfaces.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:35 AM   #11
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Simply put, Federer is afraid of going to net against Nadal because of the ridiculous passing shots Nadal hits. Federer's favorite approach is the FH DTL to a right-handed player's BH. This shot goes to Nadal's FH and Nadal comes up with crazy winners with it. Therefore you have Fed's favorite approach neutralized. He had some good approaches today but Nadal came up with crazy winners. If you look at the stats, Federer won the last set and only came to net 2 or 3 times. Fed has great hands at net and I have seen him every type of volley imaginable. The problem is that he doesn't cover the net all that well (something he admitted to when first working with Roche) and doesn't have great net instincts of where the ball is going on the passing shot. He hesitates and on important points doesn't trust himself or fully believe in himself at net.
Well, tell me who really does have great instincts at the net? It seems to me, it is more of a guessing game once you get up there. You either cover the right shot or you dont.It's especially tough with Nadal because he disguises his passing shots so well. Federer seemed to cover the net pretty well yesterday, though. He was passed on a number of times, yes, but he also made some tremedous shoe string drop volleys.
I do agree with you that he doesn't believe in his volleying. He can be indecisive up there at times, and you cant afford to do that against Nadal.
I would love for Roger to come to the net alot more, because I think its a great weapon that he has, but it just isn't practical anymore, not even on grass. With the slower conditions and the newer raquets, guys just pass to well to come in alot. I mean, why would Federer change a winning formula. When he was a younger player he used to serve-volley and come in a lot more, but the results weren't there obviously. I think it will be interesting to see how he plays at the Open. Thats one tournement, that I believe you can still be agressive and come to net.
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I'm going with Cahill as the choice
I think Cahill would be a good coach, but I prefer him in the commentary booth to be honest.
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Is that Roger say anything about he want a coach?
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Roger’s dad Robert was on swiss radio sdf this morning he said that roger has someone in mind, but the person has stopped coaching for quite a time, He said he’s not going to name the person roger is pursuing because it wouldn't be fair.
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I have heard rumors that Steffi's former coach may be a likely candidate. He is supposed to be a no nonsense type of guy. Anyone know more about him?
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