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Old 06-25-2009, 02:55 AM   #721
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Petty little ignorant environment?

Was that really needed?

didn't expect THAT from you.
- it's quite simple, if you dismiss a complete new generation of progfans... well eh.

No harm meant Gu, but I feel the need to defend myself on my opinions just as much as you seem to, eh...
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:58 AM   #722
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- it's quite simple, if you dismiss a complete new generation of progfans... well eh.

No harm meant Gu, but I feel the need to defend myself on my opinions just as much as you seem to, eh...
Yeah but am I using this kind of derogatory comments?

If you think revering Keith Emerson, Chris Squire, Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman, Roger Waters is a "petty ignorant environment", then why do you even like prog rock?
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Yeah but am I using this kind of derogatory comments?

If you think revering Keith Emerson, Chris Squire, Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman, Roger Waters is a "petty ignorant environment", then why do you even like prog rock?
Did I ever say anything like that???
I don't think so to be honest, and if I did, you must have misunderstood me.

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Old 06-25-2009, 03:13 AM   #724
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Did I ever say anything like that???
I don't think so to be honest, and if I did, you must have misunderstood me.

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No, you said I live in such an environment. I just described my environment so you can realize what you have just said...
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No, you said I live in such an environment. I just described my environment so you can realize what you have just said...
Hey, let's just forget it. I might have worded my opinion in a rather loopy way, and I apologize for that. Everyone's entitled to his/her opinions indeed. I like both the Classic Era as well as the new one, you don't. That's about it.

BTW, a good friend of mine had tickets to the upcoming concert of Keith Emerson at De Boerderij in Zoetermeer but the concert is cancelled because of Keith suffering some nasty hand injury.
Too bad, I hope it's not because of age getting up with him.
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Hey, let's just forget it. I might have worded my opinion in a rather loopy way, and I apologize for that. Everyone's entitled to his/her opinions indeed. I like both the Classic Era as well as the new one, you don't. That's about it.

BTW, a good friend of mine had tickets to the upcoming concert of Keith Emerson at De Boerderij in Zoetermeer but the concert is cancelled because of Keith suffering some nasty hand injury.
Too bad, I hope it's not because of age getting up with him.
Ok, no problem. I understand you're really connected to new bands and it's quite natural that you don't like my opinions about neo-prog. It's just that we're in the same team here. No need to attack me.

Well, I'd say those guys should maybe take some time off their touring schedules... otherwise they'll be obliged to stop, just like Emerson is now.
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Ok, no problem. I understand you're really connected to new bands and it's quite natural that you don't like my opinions about neo-prog. It's just that we're in the same team here. No need to attack me.
- yep. I made a mistake, addressing you in the way I did.
I am very much attached to the younger guys who still try to keep the whole genre alive, that is very much true. Guess that's why I got a bit touchy.

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Well, I'd say those guys should maybe take some time off their touring schedules... otherwise they'll be obliged to stop, just like Emerson is now.
I always admire it a lot when the Older Fellows just continue touring, even more if they're due to play in venues a lot smaller than in their Hi Days.
But you are right - when they aren't capable of keeping up with their own standards of playing, it's time to make it quits. That said I hope Mr. Emerson will be able to recover from his current physical troubles and come back to make his fans enjoy his playing again, of course.
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- yep. I made a mistake, addressing you in the way I did.
I am very much attached to the younger guys who still try to keep the whole genre alive, that is very much true. Guess that's why I got a bit touchy.



I always admire it a lot when the Older Fellows just continue touring, even more if they're due to play in venues a lot smaller than in their Hi Days.
But you are right - when they aren't capable of keeping up with their own standards of playing, it's time to make it quits. That said I hope Mr. Emerson will be able to recover from his current physical troubles and come back to make his fans enjoy his playing again, of course.
Isn't it the second time he has to stop touring because of his hands?
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Isn't it the second time he has to stop touring because of his hands?
As far as I remember, yes.
But it is of course pretty obvious that him 1) depending on his hands, and 2) being a rather old fellow by now, causes him to bolt out from tours lately.
Better for him to call it quits or either take off enough time to heal for now.

It's not like it's impossible - Van Der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill still manage to play at their top level, even when the guys are well beyond their 60's...
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As far as I remember, yes.
But it is of course pretty obvious that him 1) depending on his hands, and 2) being a rather old fellow by now, causes him to bolt out from tours lately.
Better for him to call it quits or either take off enough time to heal for now.

It's not like it's impossible - Van Der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill still manage to play at their top level, even when the guys are well beyond their 60's...
Well, it's strange that a guy with such an amazing technique has that kind of problem... this kind of injuries usually happen more often on amateurs, because they have wrong technique. I mean, Squire, Howe, Banks (names off the top of my head) don't have such problems.

Maybe mr. Emerson exaggerated with the bombastic moves and tricks in the 70s.
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Well, it's strange that a guy with such an amazing technique has that kind of problem... this kind of injuries usually happen more often on amateurs, because they have wrong technique. I mean, Squire, Howe, Banks (names off the top of my head) don't have such problems.

Maybe mr. Emerson exaggerated with the bombastic moves and tricks in the 70s.
Yeah, I guess you're right on that.
But I do know quite a few very good metal guitarists having had to deal with RSI-related injuries as well. In all, I guess it's just a case of 'Bad Luck'.

Or as Metal Heads put it, "God Hates Us All" (Slayer)...
(I am an atheist, don't worry about that. )
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Yeah, I guess you're right on that.
But I do know quite a few very good metal guitarists having had to deal with RSI-related injuries as well. In all, I guess it's just a case of 'Bad Luck'.

Or as Metal Heads put it, "God Hates Us All" (Slayer)...
(I am an atheist, don't worry about that. )
You know, maybe he has some genetic predisposition... I mean, I have a shoulder injury because I was born with a type II acromion. It just plain sucks and there's nothing I can do except having a surgery.
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You know, maybe he has some genetic predisposition... I mean, I have a shoulder injury because I was born with a type II acromion. It just plain sucks and there's nothing I can do except having a surgery.
best of luck with that, Gu.
I've been having some strange problems with my left arm lately as well. Thingie hurt the hell out of me while watching Halle this year.

And all of a sudden it disappeared last week. I feel lucky about that, but at the same time, troubled as I don't know what caused it, and bloody hell it's bound to return as it did before.

Thing is, we all think we're kind-of *immortal and immaculate* untill SHIT hits the fence at some time....
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best of luck with that, Gu.
I've been having some strange problems with my left arm lately as well. Thingie hurt the hell out of me while watching Halle this year.

And all of a sudden it disappeared last week. I feel lucky about that, but at the same time, troubled as I don't know what caused it, and bloody hell it's bound to return as it did before.

Thing is, we all think we're kind-of *immortal and immaculate* untill SHIT hits the fence at some time....
Tell me about it. I used to boast about how I had never had an injury until this shoulder injury started... and it f.... me up.

Well, I'm doing physical therapy and I'm gettin' better, so...

I just wanna say I'm terribly sorry for not checking out ELP's discography more thoroughly before.
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