Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5? - MensTennisForums.com

MensTennisForums.com

MenstennisForums.com is the premier Men's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!

Reply

Old 07-24-2013, 08:13 AM   #1
Dmitry Verdasco
Registered User
 
Dmitry Verdasco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,733
Dmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Since it's release in March 2011, Top Spin 4 is yet to sell even 1 million copies over the 3 gaming formats. In comparison, Top Spin 3 has sold over 1.5 million over the 3 gaming formats.

TOPSPIN 4 SALES to date..

Wii....115,660
Xbox...335,057
PS3....535,515
______________
TOTAL..986,222

Will we see a Top Spin 5? Is this considered a flop?
__________________
8 RAFAEL NADAL 8
MATOSEVIC - DIMITROV - TURSUNOV - WAWRINKA
HINGIS - DEMENTIEVA - DOKIC - KOURNIKOVA - GOLOVIN - KEYS - PIRONKOVA - VOEGELE - RADWANSKA

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaK_4ever View Post
The youngest player in the WTA Top-100 is 18 years and 11 months old. See, nowadays not even paedophiles should be particularly interested in the women's tennis.
Dmitry Verdasco is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 07-24-2013, 08:27 AM   #2
country flag pierricbross
Registered User
 
pierricbross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 486
pierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond reputepierricbross has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Top Spin 4 was supposed to have lots of new playable characters via downloadable content but they canned the idea soon after release. The online is also terrible and they never did a proper job of improving it.

Despite these flaws, the single-player aspect of the game is by far the best ever released. It would be a shame if they don't make a fifth one. Virtua tennis just isn't the same (although their online is good).
pierricbross is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #3
Dmitry Verdasco
Registered User
 
Dmitry Verdasco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,733
Dmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Quote:
Originally Posted by pierricbross View Post
Top Spin 4 was supposed to have lots of new playable characters via downloadable content but they canned the idea soon after release. The online is also terrible and they never did a proper job of improving it.
The online was terrible. I remember getting stuck on the 'looking for opponents' page for 10 minutes before it would say there are no suitable matches

The roster was an issue in my opinion - particularly the women. Why get Chang, Davydenko, Rafter and Courier - but not Sharapova?

The perfect roster would be:


8 Male - Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Tsonga JMDP, Dimitrov, Tomic (6 top players, 2 up-and-comers)
8 Female - Serena, Sharapova, Azarenka, Radwanska, Ivanovic, Li, Stephens, Robson (6 top players, 2 up-and-comers)

8 Spare Spaces for Downloadable Players from...

12 CURRENT - Wozniacki, Errani, Kerber, Kvitova, Bartoli, Stosur, Kirilenko, Lisicki, Jankovic, Kuznetsova, Hantuchova, Zheng
12 PAST - Hingis, Davenport, Capriati, Kournikova, Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Henin, Venus, Clijsters, Mauresmo
12 CURRENT - Berdych, Ferrer, Gasquet, Wawrinka, Nishikori, Haas, Raonic, Janowicz, Almagro, Gulbis, Monfils, Matosevic Querrey
12 PAST - Agassi, Sampras, Borg, McEnroe, Kuerten, Hewitt, Lendl, Connors, Safin, Roddick, Moya, Edberg


------------------------------------------------------------------


I feel they haven't capitalised on the biggest tennis countries, especially China with Li Na. If they cover...

UK with Murray and Robson
Australia with Tomic ( + free downloadable Stosur and Hewitt)
US with Serena, Stephens ( + free downloadable Sampras, Davenport, Capriati and Agassi)
China with Li ( + free downloadable Zheng)
France with Tsonga ( + free downloadable Bartoli and Gasquet)
Russia with Sharapova ( + free downloable Kournikova and Safin)

That's your grand slam markets and other big markets covered. People love free shit - or the idea that they're getting something for free.

With the European countries, offer corresponding free players...

Switzerland - Hingis, Wawrinka
Spain - Moya, Almagro
Germany - Lisicki, Haas
Denmark - Wozniacki
Poland - Janowicz
Czeck - Berdych, Kvitova
Slovak - Hantuchova
Italy - Errani
Sweden - Borg
Serbia - Jankovic
Belgium - Henin, Clijsters
etc etc etc

Japan - Nishikori
Brazil - Kuerten

ETC!

All regions that don't have a player, offer Kournikova.

I just think region specific free downloads, promoted just with a sticker for each different country - could boost sales

I don't know, what does everyone else think?

You'd think with Li Na in a video game, they'd do well over a million copies just there Do people have game consoles there?
__________________
8 RAFAEL NADAL 8
MATOSEVIC - DIMITROV - TURSUNOV - WAWRINKA
HINGIS - DEMENTIEVA - DOKIC - KOURNIKOVA - GOLOVIN - KEYS - PIRONKOVA - VOEGELE - RADWANSKA

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaK_4ever View Post
The youngest player in the WTA Top-100 is 18 years and 11 months old. See, nowadays not even paedophiles should be particularly interested in the women's tennis.
Dmitry Verdasco is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 11:37 AM   #4
country flag redshift36188
Registered User
 
redshift36188's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 28
Posts: 2,391
redshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond reputeredshift36188 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Make a good online setup, make it for PC and I'll buy it.

It's silly to not grab the PC online gaming community.
__________________
"Congrats to Federer, you are having a great season!"
- Humbalito at Rome2013
redshift36188 is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #5
country flag GSMnadal
Registered User
 
GSMnadal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Netherlands
Age: 21
Posts: 15,457
GSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Two words:

Edit mode
__________________
RAFAEL NADAL

'Rafael Nadal is the best ever' - John McEnroe

1 AO - 8 RG - 2 W - 2 USO
GSMnadal is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #6
Dmitry Verdasco
Registered User
 
Dmitry Verdasco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,733
Dmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond reputeDmitry Verdasco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GSMnadal View Post
Two words:

Edit mode
Please explain.
__________________
8 RAFAEL NADAL 8
MATOSEVIC - DIMITROV - TURSUNOV - WAWRINKA
HINGIS - DEMENTIEVA - DOKIC - KOURNIKOVA - GOLOVIN - KEYS - PIRONKOVA - VOEGELE - RADWANSKA

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaK_4ever View Post
The youngest player in the WTA Top-100 is 18 years and 11 months old. See, nowadays not even paedophiles should be particularly interested in the women's tennis.
Dmitry Verdasco is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #7
country flag randomtennisfan
Registered User
 
randomtennisfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 5,835
randomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond reputerandomtennisfan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

I prefer Tennis Elbow now, obviously the graphics aren't great but you can mod it to have all the proper tournaments, hundreds of players etc.
__________________
Tsonga & Murray fan


Hope for good things from Pablo Carreno-Busta
randomtennisfan is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #8
country flag The Prince
Registered User
 
The Prince's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hiding
Posts: 11,700
The Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond reputeThe Prince has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Exactly, the game needs a FIFA-style edit mode in which you can create players (which are not just solely for career mode).
The Prince is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 12:24 PM   #9
country flag asmazif
Registered User
 
asmazif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,622
asmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond reputeasmazif has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

we better
__________________
| Wins over 3+ of the Top 4. Players to reach all slam QFs+ in history. Hawkeye/Line Calls.
Nole / Tsonga / The Fog / Llodra / Dolgo / Colonel / Haas / Brown / Petz / Mahut / Sijsling / Funky Flo / Cuevas / Fed / Stan / Baker / Alund / Brands / Benneteau / Stakh / PHM
Henman / Edberg / Becker / Stich / Safin / Gambill / Grosjean / Malisse / Gonzo / Santoro / Rafter / Agassi / Laver / Schalken / Nováček / Rosewall / Ashe / H-T Lee / Kuerten / Boetsch / Pavel / Sundström / Björkman / Scud / El Aynaoui / Arazi / Calleri / Sampras / Nalbandian / Mosquito / Srichaphan / Pioline
asmazif is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 12:46 PM   #10
country flag GSMnadal
Registered User
 
GSMnadal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Netherlands
Age: 21
Posts: 15,457
GSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmitry Verdasco View Post
Please explain.
What makes these games boring after a while is the limited roster, and playing the same fake names early on and the same real players in the final stages. Due to having to pay seperate fees for each player, more licensed players is impossible for a game that sells so few copies.

However, there's absolutely no excuse for them not putting in a full, fake top 100 with editable names, appearances, skills etc.

Put that in, and you have a great game without having to splash more cash on licenses.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
Exactly, the game needs a FIFA-style edit mode in which you can create players (which are not just solely for career mode).

No, a PES styled edit mode. FIFA copied that of them like they always do. PES' edit mode is way more detailed and better anyway.
__________________
RAFAEL NADAL

'Rafael Nadal is the best ever' - John McEnroe

1 AO - 8 RG - 2 W - 2 USO
GSMnadal is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 01:04 PM   #11
country flag Murray Mint
Registered User
 
Murray Mint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Age: 28
Posts: 654
Murray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond reputeMurray Mint has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

I used to like TS4. After playing Tennis Elbow though, I know I'll never touch it again. The dearth of tennis games used to bother me, I wondered if there'd ever be one with a satisfying, comprehensive career mode. Then I found Tennis Elbow, what a joyous day. Seriously, they could get to TS8, and it still wouldn't be as good as TE. Can't speak highly enough of it, sports gaming at its best. Beats the others hands-down, and makes the supposed simulation style of TS feel more like Virtua Tennis.
Murray Mint is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 01:08 PM   #12
country flag Certinfy
Registered User
 
Certinfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 44,862
Certinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond reputeCertinfy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

It's hard because they have to pay each player individually to feature in the game and then also pay for the rights for many official tournaments which costs them a lot.

2K Czech's main next-gen game now is clearly Mafia III, maybe after that their attentions will switch to Top Spin 5 or maybe 2K will just give it to another studio of theirs to develop. Wouldn't really even be that surprised if 2K ditched Top Spin altogether, NBA 2K is clearly their main sports game.
__________________
Berdych | Murray | Tsonga | Monfils | Raonic | Soderling
On Djokovic vs Berdych:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saberq View Post
if he loses this I will support Murray
Certinfy is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 01:13 PM   #13
country flag nazzac
Registered User
 
nazzac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The Brandwagon
Age: 18
Posts: 869
nazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond reputenazzac has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

My ideas for a new top spin...

Roster:
For the mens, they should have the top 8 players today plus 8 legends. For the womens, they should do the same, which means you get 16 playable characters from both tours. Also, make the animations realistic of those players.

Then have some unlockable players or DLC players which you can unlock through career mode or download. They can be past or present players.

Also, make the editing better, so you can create better pro's. In addition to that have the ability to upload & download created players like you can do with EA sport games.

This allows you to have a wide roster of real players from the tour without the need to get liscense for everyone.

Also, add more 'fake' players for career mode so it doesn't get so repetitive and allow them to grow as players too. One problem with TS 4 is that everyone stays in the same positions year in & year out. Nobody declines or develops.

Courts: Bar the obvious lack of Wimbledon, the liscensing for the tournaments is pretty good. You get some masters the WTF & 3 Grand slams. What i would like to see is perhaps 1 more court from those Grand slams if possible.

Apart from that they could at least make the other courts more like their true forms. Not exactly like them, because of liscensing issues, but at least something that resembles them more. Dublin open is an example. Why not call it the 'British open' or something and have it look something similar to Wimbledon.

Career mode: Make it more realistic. Like i mentioned above, players should grow & decline instead of staying in the same place. The Calender should go from a week by week basis instead of month by month, giving you an oppertunity to play more than 1 tournament a month.

Also, level shouldn't factor what tournaments you should be able to enter. That should be based on rankings or something. I don't like the fact that i can't enter Grand Slams for a while despite my ranking being high enough. It's stupid tbh.

Game modes: A tournament mode like GST 2 would be good as it would allows for more offline features. Also a challenge mode or something would add to the offline experiance.
__________________
Jo Wilfried Tsonga


Del Potro-Nishikori-Brands-Paire-Wawrinka-Sampras-Llodra-Safin-Falla
nazzac is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #14
country flag nole_no1
Registered User
 
nole_no1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Age: 20
Posts: 11,419
nole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond reputenole_no1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Certinfy View Post
It's hard because they have to pay each player individually to feature in the game and then also pay for the rights for many official tournaments which costs them a lot.

2K Czech's main next-gen game now is clearly Mafia III, maybe after that their attentions will switch to Top Spin 5 or maybe 2K will just give it to another studio of theirs to develop. Wouldn't really even be that surprised if 2K ditched Top Spin altogether, NBA 2K is clearly their main sports game.
Also they bought the rights for WWE games and if they'll have success with that maybe they won't even bother to make another Top Spin game
nole_no1 is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2013, 01:47 PM   #15
country flag GSMnadal
Registered User
 
GSMnadal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Netherlands
Age: 21
Posts: 15,457
GSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Top Spin 4 yet to sell 1 million copies WW, will we see Top Spin 5?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Murray Mint View Post
I used to like TS4. After playing Tennis Elbow though, I know I'll never touch it again. The dearth of tennis games used to bother me, I wondered if there'd ever be one with a satisfying, comprehensive career mode. Then I found Tennis Elbow, what a joyous day. Seriously, they could get to TS8, and it still wouldn't be as good as TE. Can't speak highly enough of it, sports gaming at its best. Beats the others hands-down, and makes the supposed simulation style of TS feel more like Virtua Tennis.
Do you sell this game or what? It's alright, but nowhere near as good as you make it out to be
__________________
RAFAEL NADAL

'Rafael Nadal is the best ever' - John McEnroe

1 AO - 8 RG - 2 W - 2 USO
GSMnadal is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios