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Old 04-14-2008, 06:21 AM   #61
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Doubles Draw

00:00| [1]Gigi/Tennis2006 vs. Bye
00:00| Lucho_Coria/Jeronimo vs. Bye
00:00| JM-Del-Potro/hahaha7 vs. HenryMag/Ruisantos
00:00| Bye vs. [4]Huff/Georg

00:00| [3]Robin Hood/MuriloBrasil vs. Bye
00:00| Boarder35m/Kielian vs. diego36arg/trucul
00:00| Bye vs. drikke/marr
00:00| Bye vs. [2]Nadie/Bjorki

4 BYES were given by RANKING the other 2 were done with Random.Org Dice Roll
Not very fair to give byes to lower ranked teams in first round. diego36arg/trucul (12+18) and HenryMag/meninosantos(16+8) are better ranked than Drikke/marr(23+16) and Lucho_Coria/Jeronimo (19+19).
Would have been better to have a first round with the lower ranked 4 teams (JM-DelPotro/hahaha7, Boarder35m/Kielian, Drikke/marr and Lucho_Coria/Jeronimo). Winners are Q1 and Q2 and then you make the draw starting from 2nd round.
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:24 AM   #62
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its up to you, but when byes are more than the number of the seeds, the real rule says they have to be done randomly
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no chance to get a WC here i gess?
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its up to you, but when byes are more than the number of the seeds, the real rule says they have to be done randomly
OK, let us follow the rules. But I have also checked the rules for bye with the following official ATP rules:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T.../2008rbook.pdf

I also learnt that losers in 2nd round who got a bye in first round will get points of first round losers and not 2nd round losers. This means I will have to modify slightly the ranking based on the previous DTT tournaments.
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OOP for tomorrow?
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:09 PM   #66
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OK, let us follow the rules. But I have also checked the rules for bye with the following official ATP rules:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T.../2008rbook.pdf

I also learnt that losers in 2nd round who got a bye in first round will get points of first round losers and not 2nd round losers. This means I will have to modify slightly the ranking based on the previous DTT tournaments.
Updated rankings does not change anything for Singles but for doubles, we now have:

Code:
DOUBLES ENTRY LIST (Rankings as of 03/17/08)

01. Drikke/marr   21 + 13 = 34
02. HenryMag/meninosantos 13 + 7 = 20
03. diego36arg/trucul 10 + 18 = 28
04. tennis2006/gigi 1 + 1 = 2
05. Huff/georg 15  + 15 = 30
06. Robin Hood/MuriloBrasil 6 + 5 = 11
07. lucho_coria/jeronimo 21 + 21 = 42
08. Nadie/Björki 3 + 3 = 6
09. JM-Del-Potro/hahaha7 21 + 19 = 40
10. Boarder35m/Kielian NR10
11. 
12. 
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[b]SEEDED TEAMS (Rankings as of 04/07/08)

01. Tennis2006/Gigi 1 + 1 = 2
02. Nadie/Björki  3 + 3 = 6 
03. Robin Hood/MuriloBrasil 6 + 5 = 11
04. HenryMag/meninosantos 13 + 7 = 20
I don't know if we need to redo fully the draws. Maybe, we can just swap places in the draw between HenryMag/meninosantos and Huff/georg ?

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OOP for tomorrow?
The current OOP published on ATP Site for tomorrow are:

ESTORIL:

No doubles planned.

VALENCE:

Brunstrom/Cerretani vs. Ratiwatana/Ratiwatana
Garcia-Lopez/Montanes vs. Horna/Ventura

For Houston, based on Monday OOP, I can guess this will be a subset of following matches (probably between 3 and 5 of these matches):

HOUSTON:

Lipsky/Martin vs. Luczak/Spadea
Armando/Odesnik vs. Harrison/Nishikori
Blake/Fish vs. Cuevas/Granollers-Pujol
Sela/Troicki vs. Berlocq/Hernandez
Daniel/Roitman vs. Butorac/Fisher

So, overall, we should have between 5 and 7 matches to bet if we keep ATP Main Tournaments. If the manager decides to include Challengers matches in the same timezone as VALENCE (and remove Houston because not same timezone as Valence and Estoril), the following Challengers are scheduled for tomorrow:

ATHENS CHALLENGER:
Beks/Middelkoop vs. Alexiou/Rovas
Lacko/Zib vs. Sirianni/Van Gemerden
Dolgopolov Jr/Istomin vs. Azzaro/Munoz de la Nava
M.Lopez/Trujillo-Soler vs. Cruciat/J.Minar

CHIASSO CHALLENGER:
D.Lopez/Zampieri vs. Cakl/Dupuis
Bozoljac/Crivoi vs. Mergea/Tecau
Rosol/Scherrer vs. Livraghi/Maiga
Guez/Jeanpierre vs. Colangelo/Crugnola

TALLAHASSEE CHALLENGER:
Battistone/Battistone vs. Lugassy/Ouanna

But, I don't know what will be the decision of the manager.
If he is not here at 23:00 CET, I will propose a OOP (probably without Challengers but with Valence and Houston only).

If you really are in a hurry, you can send picks for all these matches with PTS

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no chance to get a WC here i gess?
Send your picks ! I guess you will be considered as an alternate if anybody does not send picks.
If really everybody sends picks (which has never occured since beginning of DTT), I guess that you could take one of the 5 byes.
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:30 PM   #69
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First OOP Tuesday
VALENCE:

Brunstrom/Cerretani vs. Ratiwatana/Ratiwatana SR1 PTS (SR 5)
Garcia-Lopez/Montanes vs. Horna/Ventura SR2 PTS (SR 6)

HOUSTON:

Lipsky/Martin vs. Luczak/Spadea SR3 PTS (SR 7)
Armando/Odesnik vs. Harrison/Nishikori SR4 PTS (SR 8)
Blake/Fish vs. Cuevas/Granollers-Pujol SR5 PTS (SR 9)
Sela/Troicki vs. Berlocq/Hernandez SR6 PTS (SR 10)
Daniel/Roitman vs. Butorac/Fisher SR7 PTS (SR 11)

ATHENS CHALLENGER:
Beks/Middelkoop vs. Alexiou/Rovas SR8 PTS
Lacko/Zib vs. Sirianni/Van Gemerden SR9 PTS
Dolgopolov Jr/Istomin vs. Azzaro/Munoz de la Nava SR10 PTS
M.Lopez/Trujillo-Soler vs. Cruciat/J.Minar SR11 PTS

CHIASSO CHALLENGER:
D.Lopez/Zampieri vs. Cakl/Dupuis SR12 PTS
Bozoljac/Crivoi vs. Mergea/Tecau SR13 PTS
Rosol/Scherrer vs. Livraghi/Maiga SR14 PTS
Guez/Jeanpierre vs. Colangelo/Crugnola SR15 PTS

All picks to Drikke before 11AM CET

All the Houston matches started befor 21PM CET will count.

We'll only have 10SR matches, but it could be possible the 5 Houston matches will not start before 21PM , so send all the 15 SR's.
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Updated rankings does not change anything for Singles but for doubles, we now have:

Code:
DOUBLES ENTRY LIST (Rankings as of 03/17/08)

01. Drikke/marr   21 + 13 = 34
02. HenryMag/meninosantos 13 + 7 = 20
03. diego36arg/trucul 10 + 18 = 28
04. tennis2006/gigi 1 + 1 = 2
05. Huff/georg 15  + 15 = 30
06. Robin Hood/MuriloBrasil 6 + 5 = 11
07. lucho_coria/jeronimo 21 + 21 = 42
08. Nadie/Björki 3 + 3 = 6
09. JM-Del-Potro/hahaha7 21 + 19 = 40
10. Boarder35m/Kielian NR10
11. 
12. 
Code:
[b]SEEDED TEAMS (Rankings as of 04/07/08)

01. Tennis2006/Gigi 1 + 1 = 2
02. Nadie/Björki  3 + 3 = 6 
03. Robin Hood/MuriloBrasil 6 + 5 = 11
04. HenryMag/meninosantos 13 + 7 = 20
I don't know if we need to redo fully the draws. Maybe, we can just swap places in the draw between
HenryMag/meninosantos and Huff/georg ?
Draws stay how Jeronimo did them, just to avoid later picks from players who don't have to play in singles too.

Thanks trucul and Jeronimo for the work here.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:10 PM   #71
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Final OOP Tuesday
VALENCE:

Brunstrom/Cerretani vs. Ratiwatana/Ratiwatana SR1 PTS (SR 5)
Garcia-Lopez/Montanes vs. Horna/Ventura SR2 PTS (SR 6)

HOUSTON:

Armando/Odesnik vs. Harrison/Nishikori SR3 PTS (SR 7)
Sela/Troicki vs. Berlocq/Hernandez SR4 PTS (SR 8)

ATHENS CHALLENGER:
Beks/Middelkoop vs. Alexiou/Rovas SR5 PTS
Lacko/Zib vs. Sirianni/Van Gemerden SR6 PTS
Dolgopolov Jr/Istomin vs. Azzaro/Munoz de la Nava SR7 PTS
M.Lopez/Trujillo-Soler vs. Cruciat/J.Minar SR8 PTS

CHIASSO CHALLENGER:
D.Lopez/Zampieri vs. Cakl/Dupuis SR9 PTS
Bozoljac/Crivoi vs. Mergea/Tecau SR10 PTS
Rosol/Scherrer vs. Livraghi/Maiga
Guez/Jeanpierre vs. Colangelo/Crugnola

[color="Blue"]All picks to Drikke before 11AM CET
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I'm afraid there will be no difs tomorrow, because I've school. I'll only be able to do Houston difs in the evening.
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why including challengers that will start before we thought matches will ??

a lot of late picks you'll get
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It seems that today, no doubles will be played in Chiasso challenger.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...3&postcount=96

Will these matches be kept for first round DTT or be cancelled ?
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00:00| [1]Gigi vs. Bye
03:04| Boarder35m vs. Georg No difs anymore
02:02| Gavinch77 vs. Kielian Sela/Troicki vs Berlocq/Hernandez
00:04| HenryMag vs. [8]Diego36arg

00:00| [5]Drikke vs. Bye
02:03| Lucho_Coria vs. Mzverev-Fan No difs anymore
04:00| Trucul vs. JMG No picks from JMG
00:00| Bye vs. [4]Nadie

00:00| [3]Robin Hood vs. Bye
00:03| Allez-Alejo vs. Murilo Brasil No pick from Allez-Alejo
02:03| Jeronimo vs. Marr Sela/Troicki vs Berlocq/Hernandez, if tied Jeronimo wins with more SR Ratios
00:00| Bye vs. [6]Enjoy Incubus

00:00| [7]Bjorki vs. Bye
03:04| JM-Del-Potro vs. Hahaha7 Can only be tied, but then Hahaha7 wins on SR Ratios
00:04| Netin! vs. Huff No picks from Netin!
00:00| Bye vs. [2]Tennis2006
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