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Old 03-12-2008, 08:32 AM   #61
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well ok that might be true. but hey we're all living in 21st century capitalism.

in the end, the biggest diference between the slams and standard tournaments is the prizemoney , which is 10-20x in value.

more money = better tennis
Remember Grand Slam Cup disaster and mess after it was invented by ITF ? More money does not mean better tennis. You cant buy prestige. Tennis does not need 5-th Slam

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:31 AM   #62
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some people say the AO is a micky mouse slam. as u see im from serbia and im proud that djokovic won it.

in 30-40 years the 5th slam would be equal even tradition wise.

AO dates back to 1905, so unless you can just invent over 100-years of tradition [not to mention AUS`s record in Davis Cup] then it`s going to be a bloody long time before any 5th tourney can be put on a par with AO
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Yes otherwise tennis will be doomed
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No. 4 is enough.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:59 AM   #66
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Let's just make a tourney that's on par with Indian Wells and Miami in Asia. These two tournaments don't have what it takes to be slams but one in Asia could grow to GS status.
The thing is that right now there is no obvious choice for GS.

The biggest problem right now is pollution. Tokyo, Shanghai or Hong Kong would not be able to host outside events.
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At the moment, I don't think there is a need for a 5th slam. I'm not sure what the exact situation is with the popularity of tennis in markets such as Asia but if indeed there is such a great demand for tennis in Asia. The ATP could start out having more tournaments, and possibly a AMS in Asia, which with the new calender they will be doing. And if that market continues growing maybe one day there will be a fifth slam but it will take many many decades before that potential slam will be viewed as being on the same level as the original four, in terms of history and prestige. A great venue and lots of $$$$ does not equal a hundred years of tradition.
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Last year players complained that the schedule is tough enough as it is. A grand slam takes a lot out of the top20 players which means a 5th grand slam would harm a number of smaller tournaments. So I guess no chance for one
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4 is definitely enough. A 5th Slam would only jeopardise the credibility and prestige of all the Grand Slams.
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AO dates back to 1905, so unless you can just invent over 100-years of tradition [not to mention AUS`s record in Davis Cup] then it`s going to be a bloody long time before any 5th tourney can be put on a par with AO
well wimbledon is still 30 years older but in 1968-69 it was already not that big of a diference , and its even smaller now so...

money > time > tradition > money etc
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Tennis needs a huge ATP/WTA event that pays double the majors and gives double the points.
I don't know why they haven't done it yet.
It seems like an obvious move, when you have billionaires like China, Dubai, Tiriac, all wanting big events.

Make a huge, huge event that doesn't involve the ITF.
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I think the biggest issue for any candidate would be attendance.
There is no way a new asian tourney would achieve the same attendance starting R1 (on 2 stadiums)..
Here at Roland Garros, you would have to wait 15minutes in order to see a court 7 R1 match between Wawrinka and Querrey!
People in Asia are not that much into tennis yet so they'll buy tickets only for the big matches.
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Tennis needs a huge ATP/WTA event that pays double the majors and gives double the points.
I don't know why they haven't done it yet.
It seems like an obvious move, when you have billionaires like China, Dubai, Tiriac, all wanting big events.

Make a huge, huge event that doesn't involve the ITF.
If that happened, it would still lack credibility. The Grand Slam Cup proved that.
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If that happened, it would still lack credibility. The Grand Slam Cup proved that.
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I think the biggest issue for any candidate would be attendance.
There is no way a new asian tourney would achieve the same attendance starting R1 (on 2 stadiums)..
Here at Roland Garros, you would have to wait 15minutes in order to see a court 7 R1 match between Wawrinka and Querrey!
People in Asia are not that much into tennis yet so they'll buy tickets only for the big matches.
Thats true. besides the fact that Im agaisnt a 5th slam, I dont think Asia is a good idea. Far away from most countries and tennis will never be THE sport. People travel form all over the world for slams, Australias far enough!
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Paris Bercy should be the fifth slam otherwise no way they once get a decent line-up.
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