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Old 03-12-2008, 04:37 AM   #1
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there has been a lot of talk about a 5th slam. Ion Tiriac is certainly behind a 5th slam. he says he just wants to beat the asians to one since it is only a matter of time before they have one. nobody will be able to refuse the millions they will throw at the players.

are you in favor of another slam? season ending masters cup has been declining in popularity which is why they keep moving it around. it turns out that now they will give London a shot at hosting the masters cup in 2009. could that one be replaced with another slam?

thoughts? i would be in favor of indoor slam on green clay that is significantly faster than red clay. not likely to happen however.
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This one has been done to death.

No.
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This one has been done to death.

No.
had no idea. i am new here.

why do you say no anyway? are you against it?
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What makes you think that the status quo can be maintained forever with only 4 grand slams and some Master Series? What do you have against the Asians? Why can't the market in Asia be exploited for tennis? Typical Western bullshit.
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had no idea. i am new here.

why do you say no anyway? are you against it?
I am against it.

Ok, I will give you this example. I can organise a tournament in my garden and call it a Grand Slam, but anyone with one functioning brain cell will know it's not a GS event.

I bumped a thread where Tiriac said Madrid should be the 5th Slam, the arguments are all in there.
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What makes you think that the status quo can be maintained forever with only 4 grand slams and some Master Series? What do you have against the Asians? Why can't the market in Asia be exploited for tennis? Typical Western bullshit.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Tiriac doesn't care at all about the traditions grand slams hold. He's just in it for the money.
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whats wrong with that? 5th slam wouldnt hurt


> changes dont kill u <


i wanna hear some REALLY GOOD arguments against a 5th slam
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whats wrong with that? 5th slam wouldnt hurt


> changes dont kill u <


i wanna hear some REALLY GOOD arguments against a 5th slam
To be different, lets jump off a 100m bridge without a parachute. That's good for a change.

Change what for in this case? I bet you are one of these people that thought Round Robin was a good idea.

Yes, just invent a GS event and whoever won the 5th one would be considered a lot less than the established 4. Some things can't be bought, no matter how much cash is thrown at it.
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Yes, just invent a GS event and whoever won the 5th one would be considered a lot less than the established 4. Some things can't be bought, no matter how much cash is thrown at it.
some people say the AO is a micky mouse slam. as u see im from serbia and im proud that djokovic won it.

in 30-40 years the 5th slam would be equal even tradition wise.
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To be different, lets jump off a 100m bridge without a parachute. That's good for a change.
i see u are the type of person who would rather just sit on that bridge forever

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there can be no good reason for not giving an Asian grand slam if those guys can afford it. The thing is, it would be bad if some tournament started off with being a grandslam. It would be nice if the tournament was held for quite a while and then grades itself into the Masters series for sometime and then becomes a Grand Slam.

Seriously, there must be a bidding process and its just sick to watch the same places get the Grand Slam everytime. PMK, some things can't be bought by money because its the bullshit we've been taught. The current structure of tennis tournaments is unfair to Asian players.

I don't want to listen about the number of top asian players in ATP, because it doesn't make sense to make that comparison with European counterparts without considering how many top tournaments are conducted in Asia. Just because tennis started off with Europe and Americas doesn't mean that it has to be the same way.

I hope there's a breakaway tennis league that encourages top Asian players and becomes more popular than ATP. Of course, nobody can play as well as Richard gasquet can, but that's not the point.
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there can be no good reason for not giving an Asian grand slam if those guys can afford it. The thing is, it would be bad if some tournament started off with being a grandslam. It would be nice if the tournament was held for quite a while and then grades itself into the Masters series for sometime and then becomes a Grand Slam.

Seriously, there must be a bidding process and its just sick to watch the same places get the Grand Slam everytime. PMK, some things can't be bought by money because its the bullshit we've been taught. The current structure of tennis tournaments is unfair to Asian players.

I don't want to listen about the number of top asian players in ATP, because it doesn't make sense to make that comparison with European counterparts without considering how many top tournaments are conducted in Asia. Just because tennis started off with Europe and Americas doesn't mean that it has to be the same way.

I hope there's a breakaway tennis league that encourages top Asian players and becomes more popular than ATP. Of course, nobody can play as well as Richard gasquet can, but that's not the point.
and where in Asia would you like to put it? What month would you put it in? Why do you want a 5th slam but not just an increase in the number of tournaments in Asia? Tennis needs a 5th slam like I need an aneurysm
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some people say the AO is a micky mouse slam. as u see im from serbia and im proud that djokovic won it.

in 30-40 years the 5th slam would be equal even tradition wise.
Do you know how hard it was for the Aus Open to get parity with the other 3? It used to be the garbage Slam, when all the top Aussies retired and they couldn't get players there.

They turned it around, changed the surface and the timing of the event, but the event was saved when it was possibly going to be moved away.

No, it won't, you can't invent tradition. There is change for the better of the game, then there is change for cosmetic purposes.
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