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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Pete?

No. I think Federer's decline is a fact and he's not winning any major in the future. 38 17.35%
I kinda agree... He's in a great moment, but the other 2 guys are too good. No more slams for Feddy 45 20.55%
I totally agree. Fed's still playing great tennis and he'll probably win another major 104 47.49%
Hello. I'm Rod Laver and my records are intact. Suck it losers. 32 14.61%
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:14 PM   #91
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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

Tough call. I don't think he likes to show signs of weakness. Imo he's going to gut it out until the end of the season, whatever the results, and try and regroup at that point.

I think you have to be a little careful about taking time off. If time off is due to non-tennis reasons, then that's a good idea. If time off is due to other guys beating you, well at his level I don't think that's going to work. He's better off playing through it, taking the hits and slowly start figuring out new ways to win.

Imo once power players start consistently beating him, that's a clear signal that he's not moving as well as he used to. THat is really the backbone of his game, and he's got to either get that back or minimize the damage due to the decreased mobility.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:01 PM   #92
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Over the years it has been obvious that how a top player comes out of a slump in an individual choice. Some have tried the hiatus approach and that worked for some but not others. Some came back worse, eg my fav, Johnny Mac. But some it has worked for. Many have just played through it, changed coaches, changed tactics, got divorced, what ever. I think Fed just needs to figure out what he thinks will work for him. But it does seem, he needs to make some change, just to shake things up.
The old saying, you don't change a winning game is true, but surely he can see that the time has come for some type of adjustment(s).
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:05 PM   #93
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It seems like the desire's not there. He's going to have find a new source of motivation. Even the Olympics couldn't spark it up for him...
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It's pretty obvious what Fed needs to do....

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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

God no.

Millions of people would give anything to have his kind of talent, and he is blessed with good health. Of course he should keep playing, these losses will hurt but the game is still his life, you can't just cut yourself off from it.
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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

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he looked dreadful against blake today...

just skip Us Open and regroup for next yr. He'll probably lose to Scoville Jenkins or Don young if he plays this yr at the open.
That might be the most ridiculous post I've ever seen.

He lost in the quarterfinals of the Olympics to James Blake. He's lost in the semis, finals and finals of grand slams. And getting beat by Blake is not a reason to take time off. The guys he's lost to recently to three top twenty players, not schmoes outside the top 100. Enough panic, already.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:41 PM   #97
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Why indeed? Just because he isnt winning everything is no reason to give up on the year. He's a professional, yes he is struggling at the moment but he is hardly disgracing himself. This year has been poor by Roger's standards. Give him some time, even if the rest of the year isnt so great,hopefully he will regroup and start 2009 well....
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It's pretty obvious what Fed needs to do....

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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

lately fed is looking scared when a match or game is getting close. in the past you could have been sure he would save these situations but today you must close your eyes for every shot he is making.
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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

In retrospect it would certainly be better to skip Dubai, IW and Miami earlier in the year and it might be better to follow the normal summer preparation and skip Toronto/Cincy. The latter is a close call though, I mean a loss at the Olympics would be blamed on skipping Toronto/Cincy and being rusty.

I think taking off now would just make the problem worse, Roger needs to regain his form and appetite, that can come only through matches and victories. Only if he has lost the desire to play tennis at this point it would be better for him to take a break but I don't think that is the case for him.
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Default Re: Roger should take rest of the yr off from the tour

I would actually go forward and suggest taking a whole year off. Of course finals, SF's and QF's are not bad results, but it's not about the results anymore, it's only the last few slams that Federer really needs.

The tennis schedule is so tight, I get a headache just thinking about it. Federer needs to put his legs up, let the rest of the crowd fight it out for a year, and then come back in 2010 after having rested his mind and body.

He might even want to hit the clay courts in his free time to go for the one slam he never won.

A drop in the rankings would also spare him the Masters nonsense. Let's face it, it's all about Grand Slams now. Just a few more to go, and nothing else really matters (although I'm certain he's regretting not getting the gold, or any medal for that matter).

PS: He should still play the rest of this year. I wouldn't write him off for the US Open just yet. When a guy's won the last 4 US Opens and made it to the last 4 of every slam for several years in a row, he remains a favourite.
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fed needs to make some changes.

first he needs to get a new coach.
tell mirka to take out the paycheck and pay brad gilbert whatever the fuck he wants.
second, he needs to hire victor conte for "nutritional supplements"
then maybe he can compete w/ nadal and the rest of the tour.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:35 AM   #103
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I don't know if there's anyone for Federer. Well there's one but he doesn't seem to want to go there. Sure he can call on Gilbert but that relationship will end probably sooner than it did with Roddick and Murray. I can't see them meshing at all. In fact I think Brad is even more opinionated and aggressive than he use to be and I think see Brad being on Fed's radar at all.
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BeautifulTommy, not quoting your post due to it's length. I agree with some of the points you make, but, it's not only Nadal that Federer is losing to. So developing some sort of strategy based solely on one guy when you are in fact losing to more than to just that player does not make sense.
I know Nadal fans like to think that Nadal conquered Federer, but the truth is, he's losing to a lot of guys right now. Which tells you it's not just Nadals style of play that's giving him problems. It's pretty obvious that his confidence is at an all time low. How players regain confidence (if they ever do) is a very personal and individual thing. Fed will just have to figure out what works for him. Maybe he will regain it, maybe he won't, only time will tell.
You missed my point.

Nadal is the primary player who is undermining Federer's confidence. He somehow gets under Federer's skin and makes him doubt his ability to remain in a rally, or to keep the ball in court.

For two years, Nadal's poisonous sting did not infect Federer's confidence in his approach to other opponents. Yet this year, with the increased pressure outside of the claycourt season from Djokovic (which was not there in 2005-6), a rocky start to the year with glandular fever, and probably just mental and physical fatigue after five straight years at or near the top of the game, having played more matches than any other, Federer is now really reeling. Last year, in 2007, Federer was showing incipient signs of losing his desire, in spite of his success at the majors.

He needs to face up to his problems. Take a break, maybe? If his approach to life loosens up, then hopefully once again so will his tennis.

If he keeps going as he is, saying he's playing well, that he's having a good year and that there isn't really a problem, at 27 years of age the best years of his career are needlessly behind him.
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decent bump... and author of the article is decent...

like boxing... tennis champions can just get 'old' overnight... fortunately, federer can take comfort in the saying - form is temporary, class is permanent... tho, his years of dominating are history... he's let the lads way too far in the door now...

if he is any sort of bloke, he'll enjoy the challenge put in front of him... if not... mug era
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