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Argentina 3-2 5 8.06%
Great Britain 3-2 0 0%
Argentina 4-1 21 33.87%
Great Britain 4-1 0 0%
Argentina 5-0 33 53.23%
Great Britain 5-0 3 4.84%
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:37 PM   #1
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Default World Group 1st Round: Great Britain at Argentina (February 8-10, 2008)

Argentina 3-0 Great Britain

PLACE: Estadio Parque Roca, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
SURFACE: Clay - Outdoors
BALL TYPE: Pro Penn Extra Duty (Black Seal)

DATE: 08 February - 10 February 2008

SCHEDULE:
Day 1: 1100 hrs (1300 hrs GMT)
R1 - D.NALBANDIAN (ARG) def. J.BAKER (GBR) 6-1 6-3 6-3
R2 - A.CALLERI (ARG) def. A.BOGDANOVIC (GBR) 6-3 6-1 6-1

Day 2: 1200 hrs (1400 hrs GMT)
R3 - J.ACASUSO / D.NALBANDIAN (ARG) def. R.HUTCHINS / J.MURRAY (GBR) 6-2 7-6(11) 6-0

Day 3: 1100 hrs (1300 hrs GMT)
R4 - D.NALBANDIAN (ARG) v A.BOGDANOVIC (GBR)
R5 - A.CALLERI (ARG) v J.BAKER (GBR)


http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100010158


ARGENTINA
David Nalbandian
Juan monaco
Agustin Calleri
Jose Acasuso

captain: Alberto Mancini
http://www.daviscup.com/news/newsart...rticleid=14440


GREAT BRITAIN
Andy Murray OUT (knee)
Jamie Murray
Jamie Baker
Alex Bogdanovic
Ross Hutchins (replaces Andy Murray)

captain: John Lloyd
http://www.daviscup.com/news/newsart...rticleid=14437
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:47 PM   #2
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For the first time, I'm rather confused by Lloyd's selection. WTF is Boggo doing there? The guy is unfit, low on confidence, a poor Davis Cup singles player, doesn't have the consistency on his groundstrokes to compete in long rallies, and sucks at doubles. What possible use is he going to be? It seems that Lloyd has gone for 3 singles player and a doubles player...a wise choice should one of our singles players pull up injured, but given how low our chances are anyway, we should be gambling. We HAVE to win the doubles, and we'd have been better placed having Hutchins partnering Jamie Murray (if only Auckland could change receiving sides)...fairly good service return; good serve; okay from the back; useful volleyer.

As for Argentina...Nalbandian, Monaco and Calleri are logical picks, given their strength in singles...but Chucho? Sure, he is a useful singles player, but I doubt he will be chosen for live singles action? Why didn't you guys pick just one of two doubles specialists? Calleri or Nalbandian could have made a useful partnership with him. Chucho / Nalbandian or Calleri would still be more than a match for the GBR pairing, but I'm still a little surprised by the selection there.

As for the tie outcome...GBR aren't out of it. I mean, it is possible that Muzza wins two singles and we scratch out a doubles victory. However, Argentina are most likely to win, and Muzza is unproven on clay so I'd have him as the underdog against Bandy and Monaco.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:55 PM   #3
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As for Argentina...Nalbandian, Monaco and Calleri are logical picks, given their strength in singles...but Chucho? Sure, he is a useful singles player, but I doubt he will be chosen for live singles action? Why didn't you guys pick just one of two doubles specialists? Calleri or Nalbandian could have made a useful partnership with him. Chucho / Nalbandian or Calleri would still be more than a match for the GBR pairing, but I'm still a little surprised by the selection there.
Doubles will probably be Nalbandian/Calleri. They are the best doubles players in our country at the moment, both better than any "doubles specialist", so I don't see why Mancini should be picking someone like Garcia, Prieto or Arnold, whom have the same level as Acasuso aswell.

Argentina will probably win 5-0. Could be 4-1 if Monaco choke against Murray, but I don't think so, he loves to play with the crowd.
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Argentina 5-0
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For the first time, I'm rather confused by Lloyd's selection. WTF is Boggo doing there? The guy is unfit, low on confidence, a poor Davis Cup singles player, doesn't have the consistency on his groundstrokes to compete in long rallies, and sucks at doubles. What possible use is he going to be? It seems that Lloyd has gone for 3 singles player and a doubles player...a wise choice should one of our singles players pull up injured, but given how low our chances are anyway, we should be gambling. We HAVE to win the doubles, and we'd have been better placed having Hutchins partnering Jamie Murray (if only Auckland could change receiving sides)...fairly good service return; good serve; okay from the back; useful volleyer.
I'd rather have Andy playing with Jamie than Aucks or Hutch playing with Jamie. And if you are not going to play two doubles specialists, then obviously you need three singles players in the squad, and Murray, Baker and Boggo pick themselves.
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The Argies can win the ties.. i voted for 4-1.. But i think Jamie can just puch the edge for doubles..

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I'd rather have Andy playing with Jamie than Aucks or Hutch playing with Jamie. And if you are not going to play two doubles specialists, then obviously you need three singles players in the squad, and Murray, Baker and Boggo pick themselves.
I'd rather have Andy rested, to be honest. If he loses on Friday (putting us 0-2 down), then we have no choice but to play him...but, otherwise, I don't think he should be playing all 3 days. He really doesn't gel with his brother, anyway.

If Boggo weren't still our British #2, I doubt he'd be picked. I honestly do not see why he is there. I genuinely like the guy, but he will be about as useful as a sore thumb. He should be the hitting/practice partner, and not Hutchins.
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Argentina will win 5-0, or I´m crazy??

next round may be against Israel...hmmm
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Argentina 3-2!
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I'd rather have Andy rested, to be honest. If he loses on Friday (putting us 0-2 down), then we have no choice but to play him...but, otherwise, I don't think he should be playing all 3 days. He really doesn't gel with his brother, anyway.

If Boggo weren't still our British #2, I doubt he'd be picked. I honestly do not see why he is there. I genuinely like the guy, but he will be about as useful as a sore thumb. He should be the hitting/practice partner, and not Hutchins.
We need to go all out for it, we can't go around resting players. As Baker or Boggo are highly unlikely to win a match, Andy needs to win his two singles matches plus the doubles. I know Jamie has never played with Aucks and I don't think he has ever played with Hutch, so the he doesn't gel with Andy arguement (which I don't agree with anyway) doesn't really hold up.
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Argentina will win 5-0, or I´m crazy??

next round may be against Israel...hmmm
It depends of Andy's level... if he plays good tennis it surely won't be 5-0... with Murray at his best I'd say GBR 3-2.
Anyway I think Argentina will win 3-2.
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Murray only will win 1 singles point so Argies 4-1
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Argentina 5-0
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Best of luck argies
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