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Old 12-28-2007, 04:02 PM   #61
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Benazir Bhutto died as a result of a fractured skull after hitting her head on part of her car's sun roof, not as a result of a bullet or bomb shrapnel, a spokesman for Pakistan's Interior Ministry said Friday.


man, that is bad luck
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:05 PM   #62
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Benazir Bhutto died as a result of a fractured skull after hitting her head on part of her car's sun roof, not as a result of a bullet or bomb shrapnel, a spokesman for Pakistan's Interior Ministry said Friday.


man, that is bad luck
I don't trust any of them at this point.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:52 PM   #63
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I truly hope someone steps up to the plate. I don't trust anything coming out of Musharraf's (government's) mouth. His comments of sorrow/shock/whatever regarding Bhutto's death are despicable considering the fact that he refused Bhutto's requests to procure international help investigating the first assassination attempt upon her return to the country, and by all accounts the security detail his govt. provided for her was described as loose/half-hearted/haphazard at best. Whether his govt. actively sponsored her assassination or at the very least encouraged and fostered an environment in which it would be impossible for her to have run for office without running into these killers, I wouldn't be surprised either way.
I think Musharraf is happy about her death. Of course he won't admit it. Bastard
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Me too. Certain people here moan a lot about the UK (and the US) and other Western countries, but at least we are free to voice our opinions, and our elections are decided by the ballot box, not the bullet. She was brave - sadly her end was tragic but inevitable.
It is a tragedy wherever it happens and it has effected the US.

The people in the US will know how Pakistan feels. J F Kennedy being shot in 1963 while president and his brother Robert Kennedy shot in 1968 after winning a Californian primary and possibly on his way to the presidency. There was also an attempt of the life of Reagan.

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that's right , exploding with a bomb isnt the way to do it , the proper way to kill an infidel is first pray god, then cut the throat, that's how it is written.
Religion cetainly does itself no favours these days.

Being a non believer becomes more acceptable every day.
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What happened to Bhutto was indeed tragic. Neverthless she was a poor politician. To me no one can come close to Muscharraf. He may be undemocratic but he brought more stability to nation than Sharif and Bhutto.
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:47 PM   #67
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Is anybody watching the announcement of the new chairman of the PPP?

Benazir's 19 year old son will be a symbolic chairman with his father as co-chairman and if I understand correctly the son will adopt the name Bhutto (he currently carries the last name of his father).


He will continue with his studies (Oxford) and during that time, his father will be the chairman. When he finishes his studies, he will return to Pakistan to take on his responsibilities as his mother wanted him to do.

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Is anybody watching the announcement of the new chairman of the PPP?

Benazir's 19 year old son will be a symbolic chairman with his father as co-chairman and if I understand correctly the son will adopt the name Bhutto (he currently carries the last name of his father).


He will continue with his studies (Oxford) and during that time, his father will be the chairman. When he finishes his studies, he will return to Pakistan to take on his responsibilities as his mother wanted him to do.
While it's highly commendable that he wants to carry on in his mother's footsteps, I don't think that it's a good idea. And to even announce it now...they might even try to kill him while he's at Oxford.
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Is anybody watching the announcement of the new chairman of the PPP?

Benazir's 19 year old son will be a symbolic chairman with his father as co-chairman and if I understand correctly the son will adopt the name Bhutto (he currently carries the last name of his father).


He will continue with his studies (Oxford) and during that time, his father will be the chairman. When he finishes his studies, he will return to Pakistan to take on his responsibilities as his mother wanted him to do.
I find this very bizarre. Like a monarchy or dictatorship where a relative "takes over". But I suppose some "democracy" is better than none.
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Is anybody watching the announcement of the new chairman of the PPP?

Benazir's 19 year old son will be a symbolic chairman with his father as co-chairman and if I understand correctly the son will adopt the name Bhutto (he currently carries the last name of his father).


He will continue with his studies (Oxford) and during that time, his father will be the chairman. When he finishes his studies, he will return to Pakistan to take on his responsibilities as his mother wanted him to do.

These people are real sick. This boy is 19 years old. They have no rights to risk such young life.
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going to get dangerous at Oxford these days
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What happened to Bhutto was indeed tragic. Neverthless she was a poor politician. To me no one can come close to Muscharraf. He may be undemocratic but he brought more stability to nation than Sharif and Bhutto.
What a bs? Undemocratic? There is practically a civil war in Pakistan. Are you really stupid or can you not read and you see nothing. This proamerican bloke embezzles millions of dollars, which he got from his mate from USA. He built palaces for it for himself and his mates. There is a big shit and enormous poverty, chaos in Pakistan thanks to him. He is corrupted proamerican scum and nothing more. Musharraf is Hussein - alike politicians. And his one feature is supporting of this proamerican chaos and supporting of Bush wars.
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I find this very bizarre. Like a monarchy or dictatorship where a relative "takes over". But I suppose some "democracy" is better than none.
It's a bizarre choice perhaps but to be fair, Bilawal Bhutto was chosen to be the chairman of a political party, not to lead a country like a monarch or a dictator. That party still has to go through elections.
On BBC World, an expert (forgot his name but he's a professor in the US) said that democracy in many of these Asian countries is still in an infancy stage, having to fight traditions that go back a long, long time. Democracy as the Western world knows it, did not take place all of a sudden either. It was a gradual procedure.

I can't begin to try to understand what's going through his head right now. He just lost his mother in a brutal way. Losing a parent suddenly is a huge shock to the system in the best of times, let alone take on such a responsibility while trying to deal with that.

So, I hope that this 19 year old has a strong head on his shoulders. The fact that his father will take on the role of chairman while his son is studying in England is perhaps good for the son but he's not exactly a man with a crispy clean reputation so that's not going to be easy either.

If it were up to me, I would let him continue with his studies, get some experience on a political level and then see if he's ready but I guess that they figure that there's not much time in Pakistan.
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It's a bizarre choice perhaps but to be fair, Bilawal Bhutto was chosen to be the chairman of a political party, not to lead a country like a monarch or a dictator. That party still has to go through elections.

I can't begin to try to understand what's going through his head right now. He just lost his mother in a brutal way. Losing a parent suddenly is a huge shock to the system in the best of times, let alone take on such a responsibility while trying to deal with that.

So, I hope that this 19 year old has a strong head on his shoulders. The fact that his father will take on the role of chairman while his son is studying in England is perhaps good for the son but he's not exactly a man with a crispy clean reputation so that's not going to be easy either.

If it were up to me, I would let him continue with his studies, get some experience on a political level and then see if he's ready but I guess that they figure that there's not much time in Pakistan.
That's a stable apolitical non-power hungry way of looking at it and I commend you. But I really feel that it is about power here and keeping it.
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man, that is bad luck
It is very strange. It was given on TV that she was shot dead - political assassination. Of course a blast was later probably to cover up and cause chaos.
It is clear that she was the next victim of Bush wars. Not going into mechanism of it. It will be never explained, who made it, as every political murder every thinking person knows, who it did. Executors will be uknown. But the onle thing is sure.
She was the next victim of Bush wars, just the same victim as nameless people ( usual people as we are ),who are murdered daily in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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