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Old 12-07-2007, 10:03 AM   #31
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

Gulbis and Zverev.

I am pretty much upset saying this as Korolev's #1 fan and a "stepmother", and I don't even doubt he has the biggest potential, but it is just sad what is going on with Russians in tennis. You know what I mean.

I chose Gulbis because he does have the strong shots and is not afraid of the best. He happened to win back after losing a set already as a teen; his head is okay so far. Yes, he has "horrible mistakes" says, but even Federer does.

Zverev is very underappreciated here, while he is a s&v player, who can also deal on a claycourt (!). All up for the damage, as long as his injuries won't bother him too much.

I put Zverev there instead of Tsonga, because Mischa is better on clay IMO. Tsonga is another one who suffers of injuries.

Cilic, yes he can be another Ancic/Ljuba and surely will achieve something. But a gut feeling tells me to be not fully convinced (or maybe that I will never be a fan of him).

Young is James Blake in a making (head cracks) but already far more legendary. I wish the best to The Don.

Querrey and Bolelli won't be ever anything big. Querrey can be Mardy Fish #2 and Bolelli the Massu#2 at best. Simone isn't even at 0,0001 as annoying though. Simone likes to party and his head cracks. Never good for a sportsman. I wish him all the best anyway (such a great guy )
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:20 AM   #32
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

OK, if you want them in order, I'd put them as follows:

1. Korolev
2. Gulbis
3. Cilic
4. Tsonga
5. Young
6. Bolelli
7. Zverev
8. Querrey

With the sidenote that I really hope Mischa proves me wrong and gains in consistency. While I do agree with Nathaliia that he can play on clay better than Tsonga, he is still extremely vulnerable, and I see this vulnerability as an inbuilt tendency in his game. But, as I said before, the most interesting style out of all players.

I am hoping Gulbis, Cilic and Tsonga will not do as well as I predict. They rely so much on power If this is tennis' next generation, it will be a snoozefest for me. Cilic especially is extremely boring to me. Tsonga at least has the showmanship to fire up a crowd.

Young is really a wild card here. He could either develop and go far, or could completely flunk. So I just ranked him in the middle of the pack because I simply don't know.

Bolelli is a really nice player to watch, and I think he can play on all surfaces including grass. He's got quite a good net game too and I don't agree with people who said he is mostly a claycourter. However, I think he just is not good enough to reach the Top 20, while I can, unfortunately, see the likes of Cilic get there relatively easily.

Querrey for me is just bland. He has completely failed to impress me, but could have some outstanding results with his all-power-and-no-intelligence game.
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

Korolev
Gullbis
Zverev
Cilic
Tsonga
Querrey
Bolelli
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

People are certainly being harsh on Simone. We can only wait and see what happens
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

Gulbis and Korolev
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1. Gulbis
2. Cilic
3. Young
4. Tsonga
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

1 - Gulbis
2 - Tsonga
3 - Young
4 - Cilic
5 - Zverev
6 - Bolelli
7 - Korolev
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Gulbis, Cilic and Korolev.
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:06 AM   #39
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

Some of them I can't recall having seen yet, so I'm biased toward those who I have unfortunately:

1. Gulbis
2. Young
3. Cilic
4. Korolev
5. Tsonga
6. Zverev
7. Bolelli
8. Querrey

I never really cared much about the hype for Young, didn't let it bother me too much, so I decided when I got the chance at the USO to finally see the kid play, that I should go. Sat through first set and a half against Guccione, walked around a bit and then came back to it, and in that match I liked a lot of what I saw. Yes, he had massive crowd support, but I think he needed it to help him with that initial breakthrough. A lot are quick to dismiss him, most without ever having seen him play, based on reports of ego and hype I think he has potential. Gulbis I also saw for the first time at the USO, twice actually. His first round match with Starace and then his fourth round against Moya. In parts he played well, enough for me to be optimistic. As for the rest... I'm slightly indifferent. I can't remember having seen Zverev or Bolelli play, and because of that, at this point I am surely underestimating them. Querrey.... I'm just not impressed with. He's not really too young anymore... he's an '87 just like Murray and Djokovic. Capable of a run here and there on hard courts, but it's not like he's going to win a Slam or a Masters with his game.

Actually I am not sure if I see anyone in this group really performing that spectacularly. They're all a bit hit or miss, not a single one of them is a sure thing.
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

Korolev is talented, but is dumb as a brick. I've seen him a few times and it's like batting practice with him. And he stays too far back. I just hate this kind of tennis, but I admit that he's very strong from both sides, so the potential is there.

Gulbis is a nice kid. Hope he does well.
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This video shows a few of Bolelli's strokes off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7NxiuZh9sI
Gublis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09g5CfuDYyI
Korolev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6yS3P3npQ
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1. Korolev
2. Gulbis
3. Young
4. Cilic
5. Zverev
6. Tsonga
7. Bolelli
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Default Re: Part 2. Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career?

I've only seen a few of these (Querrey, Young, Tsonga, Korolev). I really like all four aside from Young (just not impressed with him yet, although it's wonderful he can add a different side to the game).

Tsonga to me SHOULD have the most potential. He has the serve, forehand, volleys, his backhand is pretty good, and he has great movement for a big guy. But his brain, like most other Frenchies, is terrible. Love his game, attitude, style, but he's so frail mentally when he gets against slight opposition. If he can improve that side of him he should be pretty good.

Same goes for Korolev, who would be my #2 pick. He has an explosive game as well, and I could easily see him in the top 10 with some more consistency. His game is already better than Tursunov's I think, but he's still raw and needs experience. And just as a btw, his match against Melzer in the LV SF was one of the best matches all year. I've only seen him a little bit since then, and it's obvious consistency is not his strength. Hope he can work that out.

Querrey, eh, don't have much to say about him, but he should be a top 15/10 player for most of his career. Should. I wish him the best though.
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Gulbis --> His serve flows smoothly, as soon as he can work on it more, mainly by adding a bit of more variation it will be a huge help for him. He´s still unmature but has a lot of potential and flair to me. Excellent prospect, still soon to know if he will be capable of being a regular top 10 player, I´d say he should be.

Korolev --> A real gem, you´ll hardly see such a young guy hit that hard off both wings, he needs to work on that serve of his, he has power on it but it´s too predictable imo, he has to improve his defensive skills, add a bit more of variety, (mainly just to avoid killing the ball when it´s just impossible) , but I´m convinced this kid has it all to be a solid top 10 player.

Cilic ---> Many people say this kid is crap blah blah blah. He´s actually the Croat I like most, above Ancic, and I think he will have a very good career as well. Top 20 material.

Young ---> Talent was always there and he´s starting to fulfill his potential, he will be very good on hard courts, don´t know how he will adapt to slower conditions though, remains to be seen.

Tsonga ---> Very dangerous guy to play against on fast surfaces when he´s on. I don´t think he can succeed on clay and looks like he´s injury prone, that will hamper his ranking. Maybe top 20 at some point of his career, not a regular though imo

Querrey ---> Same as Young, less talent than Donald, but with that serve and those good groundies for a guy of his height, I have no doubt he will do fine on hard courts. Top 20 at some stage in his career, probably not a regular though as well as Tsonga

Zverev ---> Good serve and a lovely touch at the net, a bit rusty at the baseline, but I feel he has a good margin to improve there, once he serves more consistently in a couple of years´ time and improves his baseline strokes (I´m sure he will) he will be a very tough guy to play against on fast venues. Problem is his style won´t work on clay, but I´d say at his peak, easily a top 15-20 player on fast surfaces.

Bolelli ---> This guy has loads of talent to me, he can play both on clay and on fast surfaces (I think his game is better suited to fast venues), he has a good first serve, his fh is a joy to watch, he´s got flair and he´s improving his backhand lately. Apart from a bit of more experience, he needs to improve his footwork and his defensive skills to me


Very difficult to answer the question in this thread, I´m stubborn and I´d say Korolev will have the more successful career, and if somehow he fails at my expectations towards him, then I´d say Gulbis although I´d happilly take if Cilic turns out to be the best Croat since Ivanisevic

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Korolev is the most overhyped so far, poor shot selection and variety.
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