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Old 11-21-2009, 07:25 AM   #211
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Korolev will be top 50 by mid 2010
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:39 PM   #212
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Like the previous thread where deivid and myself had the convo about the 8 players and divided them into groups of 2 and seeing who had the more potential for success from Gasquet, Murray, Baghdatis, Berdych, Verdasco, Djokovic, Monfils and del Potro.

This time we have 8 players, but there will be no groups. It will be like how I run the Liked/Disliked players thread, rate from then to 1 to 8. One being the best and 8 the worst. Give reasons if possible, it will make it more interesting to read.

Yes, their GS results will be updated as they compete in them and follow the progression of them into top players for some and others maybe not. For the most part I tried to get them in the same age, but Tsonga is here mainly because 2007 was his 1st full season without injury problems.

Success, well that would mean best potential or which one of them will win GS titles and TMC/TMS titles in the future.

The list of 8 are

- Gulbis
- Korolev
- Tsonga
- Cilic
- Young
- Querrey
- Zverev
- Bolelli

There is some variety among these players. Tsonga and big Sam with the huge shots, Zverev with the serve/volley, Korolev huge groundies, Gulbis has good variation. Young plays differently as he isn't all about the power. Cilic has very good work ethic and Bolelli could do well in some clay events.
none of them is going to win a slam........they just don't have the game nor the patience to win a slam........
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none of them is going to win a slam........they just don't have the game nor the patience to win a slam........
If they do, would you go back to your hole?
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If they do, would you go back to your hole?
The question didn't ask whether they would win a Slam.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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The question didn't ask whether they would win a Slam.
But it's an opportunity to get that promise given the strength of conviction
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reading the first few pages is like a dream for me
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If they do, would you go back to your hole?
go ahead and tell me who among them has the game and patience to do it.......they are only winning a few masters events here and there, they are not winning any slams........you have to live with that reality.......
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Your prediction was seven months early Zhenya's had a great year.

- Second round at the AO
- First career ATP final
- One challenger title in singles and one in doubles
- Reached a career high of 50
- Beat Safin at Moscow
- No hernia surgeries
I don't see how beating an old, injured Moya at the AO is a great accomplishment. If the guy isn't aiming to win more than 1 match at a Slam then he doesn't have his priorities straight.
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go ahead and tell me who among them has the game and patience to do it.......they are only winning a few masters events here and there, they are not winning any slams........you have to live with that reality.......
I'll take it as a yes, then
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I don't see how beating an old, injured Moya at the AO is a great accomplishment. If the guy isn't aiming to win more than 1 match at a Slam then he doesn't have his priorities straight.
you realize he lost to Federer, right?
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That's beside the point, you act as if making round 2 is some sort of good accomplishment.
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That's beside the point, you act as if making round 2 is some sort of good accomplishment.
That's not besides the point. He lost to FEDERER! And besides, 64 players don't make the second round. And it's a great accomplishment for him considering all the surgeries he's had and the fact that his baby nephew died around Christmas, just a few weeks before the tournament.
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Cilic makes his first Slam semi.
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Gulbis : Who really knows what will become of him

Korolev : Got married most significant thing he has done in ages.

Tsonga : Easily the best of this lot, helps not being out of the game for years, capable of beating the big guys, but inconsistency will remain.

Cilic : Gets a stupid amount of hate at this place, not like he cheats like Robredo, can agitate like Almagro, irritate people with antics like Tomic. Works hard, hope he comes back to the tour soon.


Young : No DY, start 2011 outside top 100, finish the year in the top 50. So he sacks the coaches there and brings mamma back on board, not good. If he wins a title likely to be one of the smaller US events.

Querrey : Gets a lot of crap, for not liking tennis, looking like a tourist. Even with the limited game barring injury problems should finish the year inside top 100.

Zverev : Had to rebuild his serve after some injury issues, slow process.


Bolelli : Had some injuries, but struggled in the past year to come back.
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