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11-11-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
btw, they are playing first up, 3pm shanghai time,
Mark Knowles (BAH) / Daniel Nestor (CAN) vs Arnaud Clement (FRA) / Michael Llodra (FRA)
btw no doubles on our tv 
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11-11-2007, 11:30 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
Thanks to everybody for the interviews and translations!
The one thing that puzzles me is this:
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And he confirms they will stop playing together after the Masters Cup.
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No more Arnaud/Mika? Then what?
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11-12-2007, 02:48 AM
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Thanks to everybody for the interviews and translations!
The one thing that puzzles me is this:
No more Arnaud/Mika? Then what?
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given my awesome memory i cannot say what the original announcement was that they now need to confirm...
seriously i don't remember when they said they're breaking up.
meanwhile mika is teasing shanghai girls with japanese.. seriously! cindy has some photos of herself with many players including our dynamic duo, but i don't know if she wants them seen on mtf. i'll find out...
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11-12-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: shanghai nono
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Thanks to everybody for the interviews and translations!
The one thing that puzzles me is this:
No more Arnaud/Mika? Then what?
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I know, but when Mika says that (he means their goal was to win a Grand Slam and it's done), the journalist answers "that's not a scoop, we already knew that". So I thought you Clément girls already knew about it too.
Or was it just a joke and I got it wrong?? 
(Marine, comment tu as compris le passage, il dit bien qu'ils devraient arrêter après Shanghai, non?)
Their match is on the ATP livestream at the moment. It looks eeeeeasy so far.
Edit: They had match point at 5-4 in the 2nd, missed it on a good serve from the other guy and they've barely won a point since then, one set all now...
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11-12-2007, 07:47 AM
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I jinxed them.
They wasted a MP at 6-2 5-4 in the 2nd set and it completely turned around after that, they never really recovered from it, Knowles-Nestor were winning games to love and leading 9-2 in no time in the final tie-break.
What a waste, I know things can change fast in doubles, but they really should have won that match.
Edit: L'Équipe writes they even had 2 MP, sorry, I was not watching all the time.
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11-12-2007, 08:34 AM
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Re: shanghai nono
It looked so good when Arnaud & Mika were up a set and break. Then I had to leave to work and when I got there they had lost...
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11-12-2007, 10:25 AM
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11-12-2007, 05:34 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
Thanks for all the information and translations  Those last ones really are very important to me
I like it that Bruno is there also to get pampered  All his hard work as a coach should also be rewarded
And maybe Clément/ Clément will be the next team? It is my dream team for sure 
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11-12-2007, 05:38 PM
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 I love this interview
Arnaud seems quite excited, he speaks so quickly than he forgets what he wants to say... lol
"On m"avait dit "les chinois sont bien organisés", eh ben oui les chinois sont bien organisés" lol
The suit and tie explanation is just hilarious
He doesn't like the suit at all (me neither), especially the cut, too long, too large "moi ma veste elle est trop lo,gue pour moi, et c'est pas parce que je suis trop petit c'est que la coupe est trop longue !" "par contre le col mao j'aime bien, par contre, pantalon mal coupé, veste mal coupée, moi j'aime bien quand c'est un peu plus ceintré, plus près du corps, ça moule les formes "
Truc, did you understand what micka says at the end, about their habits from wimbledon... "vous inquiétez pas pour nous, on est toujours...alcoolique" ???
Je me rappelle que pendant wimbledon après chaque match gagné ils ouvraient une bonne bouteille... ça pourrait donc être ça, non ? lol
Anyway they seem to have fun in shangai with bruno, richard and eric.
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I do exactly the same  Maybe that's why Bruno and Arnaud have a difficult time to understand what I say, when I talk to them in English 
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11-12-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
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Originally Posted by Truc
I know, but when Mika says that (he means their goal was to win a Grand Slam and it's done), the journalist answers "that's not a scoop, we already knew that". So I thought you Clément girls already knew about it too.
Or was it just a joke and I got it wrong?? 
(Marine, comment tu as compris le passage, il dit bien qu'ils devraient arrêter après Shanghai, non?)
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Oui c'est aussi ce que j'ai compris, même si j'en avais pas entendu parler et même si je comprends toujours pas pourquoi ils arrêtent après... pour se consacrer sur le simple peut-être ?
Le double leur permet de bien gagner leur vie je comprends pas pourquoi ils flinguent leur association bien huilée (d'ailleurs je pensais pareil quand mika et santoro se sont séparés, quel gachis ! Surtout que Mika ne fait strictement rien en simple !!!)
Sorry for the french parenthese.
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Pour faire du sport de haut niveau, d'autres mentalités sont plus propices".

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11-12-2007, 07:42 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
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And maybe Clément/ Clément will be the next team? It is my dream team for sure 
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Sorry Kezzi but it's not a great idea  lol
They (arnaud/mika) should keep on playing together it's a good team, able to make good results, plus they're close friends et seem to have lots fun on the tour.
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"A la base, nous les Français, sommes les champions du monde des râleurs. J'ai l'impression qu'être français, c'est un peu un handicap pour être le meilleur dans ton sport.
Pour faire du sport de haut niveau, d'autres mentalités sont plus propices".

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11-12-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
sounds like that breakup is one of those things that someone has to ask them in australia 
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11-13-2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: shanghai nono
kiro has posted some great pics from shanghai... and here's the link to some of arnaud and mika's which no one here should miss...
http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...38&postcount=2
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11-13-2007, 07:51 AM
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The journalist should have asked for more explanations instead of saying "we already know that, let's talk about something else"... Apparently, he was the only one to know about it.
I'm not sure it's definitive.
In L'Équipe today:
« J’ai été mauvais, friable du fond et en retour. C’est gavant », a ruminé Clément. « Mais Nestor s’est mis à bien retourner, a tempéré Llodra. Depuis qu’ils se sont séparés, en août (ils se sont juste rabibochés pour disputer le Masters), Nestor et Knowles ne se parlent pas au vestiaire. Mais ça ne les a pas empêchés de gagner. Comme quoi, il n’y a pas de logique… »
Arnaud means he played poorly, from the baseline and in the returning game, and he's pissed. Mika adds that Nestor started returning well too.
Since they’ve broken up, Nestor and Knowles don’t talk to each other anymore in the locker room, and yet, they managed to win…
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11-13-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: shanghai nono
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So I thought you Clément girls already knew about it too.
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That's us!
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He looks quite dejected!
Maybe this is old news now, but I recorded the match with Knowles/Nestor and only have had time to watch up to the middle of the second set--and I'm not sure I'll watch the rest! K/N were really bad in the first set and it was obvious that could hardly stand to be on the court together  . The announcer kept saying how you can only win in doubles if you have a relationship like Arnaud and Mika and that K/N didn't stand a chance with the way they were interacting...and then, they lost!
They play Dlouhy/Vizner on Wednesday.
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