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Old 08-01-2008, 04:18 PM   #91
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:27 AM   #92
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Okay , I want to give my opinion for the rankings. I think 28 tournament should count. 9TMC , 4 GS and 15 others. 18 is not much as we can play every week more tournaments. I think we should reduce the number off events which count for the rankings, but 18 is not enough in my opinion (even if you make it best 18). We could also make it best 23 or something (no matter it are GS, TMS or norma events)
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:46 PM   #93
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That's a good idea Drikke. The total weeks of tournaments excluding GS, MS and YEC is 23 so 15 other tournaments is a pretty reasonable number (but it doesn't have to be the final number yet!)
This week I'll do the usual rankings update in the rankings thread but I'll also work on the new rankings which I'll post in this thread so you all can see what they would look like with the 28 counted tournaments

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As I was updating the new rankings, it seems that we haven't even reached "15" other tournaments yet (so far we've had 13 weeks of other tournaments to count). So, if we were to change the rankings for best 15, the current rankings would not change at all. Or, if that number is cut down to best 12 tournaments, there might be a minor change to the rankings (the players who have played every single week would have one of their points cut). What does everyone think??

Another thing:
For best 15 tournaments, that would mean players would have 8 other weeks to try and improve their best 15, but, we missed one week of tournaments back in April, so it would be 7 other weeks to improve the best 15. Now that I think about it, with 7 other weeks to improve the best 15, that's not that much (considering people might be busy and have to skip a couple weeks here and there). Maybe it'd be best if we have a lower number. Just a thought!

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Old 08-04-2008, 11:34 AM   #94
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I think 15 "other" tournaments is quite a lot. If you think 5 is too low a number, wouldn't 10 be a good compromise?
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Agree with amalyn.

BTW d_s, I know you said that it would not affect the rankings until like now for "x" best tournaments, but are we not considering rolling the rankings over 12 months as well? Or just for one season. If it's just starting at 0 every year, then it would be better with 10-15 tournaments I feel, but if it becomes a rolling ranking 10 is probably as high as I would go for extra's outwith the MS and GS.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:12 AM   #96
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I'm pretty sure we'd be rolling the rankings over for next season. I don't really like the idea of starting at 0 points at the start of every single season.

I'll start doing the rankings now counting 23 tournaments (4GS+13MS+10others) and I'll post it in here so we can all see what it'll look like. If we do switch to this rankings system, I guess we could keep the old one and use it as the race.
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Okay, 10 is very good. But with this I've got another point:

I think it's absurd to count only 1 tournament a week. I we use only 10 tournaments, I want that this tournaments are my best. If I win 4 events in 1 week, and in the next 10 weeks I don't win a points, why shouldn't these 4 wins count ?

How many tournaments do we have if we would consider that every event counts ?

Maybe we should count all tournaments, not only best rom every week , and make it 15 best others. (Just giving some possibilities)
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:02 AM   #98
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Default Re: Fill-in-the-draw 2008 - New season, some changes, new managers wanted!

The only problem with counting all the tournaments every week is that I'm definitely too lazy to go back and recalculate all the points from all the tournaments But, if people like this idea... (and someone is willing to go through all the tournaments and recalculate all the points!)
In my opinion though, it's probably the best way to go with just counting the "best 10 weeks". It really is up to the player whether or not they want to play more than one event during a week, if they win all of them, then tough luck.

I'll probably finish doing the "best 10" rankings tomorrow, but from what I've done so far, it doesn't seem like there's any big changes which is good.
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I think we should stick with only counting the best tournament of a week. It's already a very "nice" rule that we can play as many tournaments as we want in a week and not have the ones where we do worst count. If you're that good that you win 3 or 4 tournaments in one week, odds are you're going to do well in other weeks, too.
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Old System
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001	(001)	Ria____________________	3407	5	19
002	(002)	AgentZero______________	3085	1	22
003	(005)	Björki_________________	2760		16
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010	(009)	Snoo Foo_______________	2038		22
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014	(013)	Chris 84_______________	1829		21
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016	(019)	buddyholly_____________	1639	3	15
017	(020)	Drikke_________________	1531		20
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034	(034)	VaiBrasil______________	898		20
035	(037)	RezNik_________________	872		9
036	(032)	Ryan46_________________	860		7
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041	(041)	ATH04__________________	574	1	7
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049	(048)	Yves.__________________	448		3
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055	(055)	Tepasaf________________	325		5
056	(056)	FilipeMB_______________	262		5
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060	(060)	zveen__________________	243		3
061	(061)	andyuk_________________	237		1
062	(062)	Sgrii__________________	232		5
063	(063)	tiptopdaisy____________	225		1
064	(068)	propaganda_____________	225		2
065	(064)	Jeronimo_______________	200		2
066	(065)	anutam_________________	191		4
067	(066)	rvugt__________________	190		5
068	(067)	ZackBusner_____________	182		2
069	(073)	Smidster_______________	169		3
070	(069)	Chiseller______________	155		2
071	(070)	lucho_coria____________	155		5
072	(071)	kiwi10is_______________	154		2
073	(072)	krystlel_______________	148		6
074	(074)	ciprianned_____________	130		2
075	(075)	johnnyCanuck___________	129		2
076	(076)	Hantu__________________	126		1
077	(077)	nemanjam_______________	121		1
078	(078)	antofalia______________	108		3
079	(079)	ltaravilse_____________	107		3
080	(080)	albop__________________	107		4
081	(088)	tennizen_______________	104		2
082	(081)	adingh_________________	81		1
083	(082)	virex__________________	79		1
084	(UNR)	delpiero7______________	72		1
085	(083)	griever________________	70		1
086	(084)	GiulioAxe______________	68		1
087	(085)	Riihilahti_____________	67		1
088	(086)	zen girl_______________	63		1
089	(087)	tennis2006_____________	60		1
089	(089)	lucian_iasi____________	55		1
091	(UNR)	jcreback_______________	52		1
092	(089)	FiBeR__________________	38		1
093	(091)	Zewsas_________________	30		1
094	(092)	Jozie__________________	27		1
094	(092)	meninosantos___________	27		1
095	(094)	JM-Del-Potro___________	21		1
097	(095)	Jelena_78______________	18		1
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104	(102)	Black Raven____________	4		1
105	(103)	Salum__________________	3		1
106	(104)	Roobs321_______________	1		1

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001	(001)	Ria____________________	3404	5	19
002	(002)	AgentZero______________	3028	1	22
003	(005)	Björki_________________	2760		16
004	(004)	John John______________	2700	1	22
005	(003)	amalyn_________________	2695		22
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007	(014)	timoe__________________	2197	1	16
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009	(007)	diego36arg_____________	2108	2	19
010	(011)	Dupuis2006_____________	2000	1	13
011	(009)	Snoo Foo_______________	1998		22
012	(010)	vamos israel___________	1990	2	21
013	(012)	d_s____________________	1817		23
014	(013)	Chris 84_______________	1776		21
015	(015)	NyGeL__________________	1728	2	17
016	(019)	buddyholly_____________	1639	3	15
017	(020)	Drikke_________________	1519		20
018	(016)	zxcv___________________	1518	1	6
019	(018)	StatBoy3_______________	1495	2	15
020	(017)	Mr Brightside__________	1463		19
021	(021)	canas__________________	1443	1	15
022	(022)	eljab__________________	1351	3	18
023	(023)	FenaFan________________	1247	2	15
024	(024)	Boarder35m_____________	1227	3	14
025	(025)	natashha_______________	1155		12
026	(026)	ycpg___________________	1078		14
027	(027)	Luso___________________	1075	1	2
028	(030)	lleytonlegend__________	1039		12
029	(029)	nkp2___________________	1031	1	7
030	(028)	trucul_________________	1012	1	11
031	(031)	Frank Winkler__________	982	1	13
032	(040)	lucky-go-happy_________	977		8
033	(033)	jonny84________________	901		17
034	(034)	VaiBrasil______________	894		20
035	(037)	RezNik_________________	872		9
036	(032)	Ryan46_________________	860		7
037	(035)	W!MBLEDON______________	799		9
038	(036)	digor__________________	792	1	8
039	(038)	TankingTheSet__________	691	2	7
040	(039)	Nadie__________________	682	1	7
041	(041)	ATH04__________________	574	1	7
042	(042)	AceMaker_______________	565		10
043	(043)	Alonsofz_______________	546		8
044	(044)	kenny_os_______________	534		6
045	(054)	saur0n_________________	527		3
046	(047)	Forever-Delayed________	515	1	6
047	(045)	hahaha7________________	495		8
048	(046)	Deathless Mortal_______	486		8
049	(048)	Yves.__________________	448		3
050	(049)	Mara_M_________________	400		1
051	(050)	jazar__________________	370		2
052	(051)	MoiNonPlus_____________	368	1	5
053	(052)	JeffCandoi_____________	339	1	5
054	(053)	libre83________________	332	1	3
055	(055)	Tepasaf________________	325		5
056	(056)	FilipeMB_______________	262		5
057	(057)	jmf0704________________	256		2
058	(058)	tennisbuddy12__________	246		3
059	(059)	raph72_________________	246		7
060	(060)	zveen__________________	243		3
061	(061)	andyuk_________________	237		1
062	(062)	Sgrii__________________	232		5
063	(063)	tiptopdaisy____________	225		1
064	(068)	propaganda_____________	225		2
065	(064)	Jeronimo_______________	200		2
066	(065)	anutam_________________	191		4
067	(066)	rvugt__________________	190		5
068	(067)	ZackBusner_____________	182		2
069	(073)	Smidster_______________	169		3
070	(069)	Chiseller______________	155		2
071	(070)	lucho_coria____________	155		5
072	(071)	kiwi10is_______________	154		2
073	(072)	krystlel_______________	148		6
074	(074)	ciprianned_____________	130		2
075	(075)	johnnyCanuck___________	129		2
076	(076)	Hantu__________________	126		1
077	(077)	nemanjam_______________	121		1
078	(078)	antofalia______________	108		3
079	(079)	ltaravilse_____________	107		3
080	(080)	albop__________________	107		4
081	(088)	tennizen_______________	104		2
082	(081)	adingh_________________	81		1
083	(082)	virex__________________	79		1
084	(UNR)	delpiero7______________	72		1
085	(083)	griever________________	70		1
086	(084)	GiulioAxe______________	68		1
087	(085)	Riihilahti_____________	67		1
088	(086)	zen girl_______________	63		1
089	(087)	tennis2006_____________	60		1
089	(089)	lucian_iasi____________	55		1
091	(UNR)	jcreback_______________	52		1
092	(089)	FiBeR__________________	38		1
093	(091)	Zewsas_________________	30		1
094	(092)	Jozie__________________	27		1
094	(092)	meninosantos___________	27		1
095	(094)	JM-Del-Potro___________	21		1
097	(095)	Jelena_78______________	18		1
098	(095)	ImmzB__________________	10		1
099	(097)	coria_fan______________	9		1
100	(098)	ExcaliburII____________	8		1
100	(098)	watchdogfish___________	8		1
102	(100)	sabrina468_____________	7		1
103	(101)	i_like_tennis__________	5		1
104	(102)	Black Raven____________	4		1
105	(103)	Salum__________________	3		1
106	(104)	Roobs321_______________	1		1
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:43 PM   #101
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great job !

i think the new system seems good.
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I think we should just go with the new system - it seems to be working fine.

Thanks d_s for taking the trouble to work this out!
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Okay then, we're going to use the best 10 system from now on and I'll make an announcement about it in the rankings thread. If it's fine with everyone, I'm thinking we can keep the old system and use it as the race instead so we'll have separate rankings and race.

And also, if it's okay with everyone, I can run the Olympics and I'm probably going to open up the thread right now.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:09 AM   #105
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And also, if it's okay with everyone, I can run the Olympics and I'm probably going to open up the thread right now.
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