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Old 10-30-2007, 05:01 PM   #31
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That's the point, isn't it - people need to take responsibility for themselves and not act like they have the right to demand that nobody disagree with them or offend them in any way. If you don't like a poster or what he says then put him on ignore, or just put up with it. Nobody has the right to expect other people never to offend them, life isn't like that. You need to be able to handle disagreement and argument like adults. Far too many people can't handle an honest argument without taking it personally that someone doesn't agree with them.
It is good that he did not get death penalty or something alike.
Poor Glen Mirnyi
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:07 PM   #32
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Gu is one the reasons why I like MTF. He isn't politically correct, so what? This is a internet forum, a place where people come to have fun, not to have some serious bullshit where you can't post (although without going too far) what you think. For that, we have real life, our problems, where we need to be Mr. Right or the whole world is coming after you.

The mods take MTF too seriously. This is a forum for people have fun. If I wanted to visit a place where nobody can cross the line without getting punished, I would have joined the army. I understand that some lines can't be crossed (racism and any other kind of discrimination) and as far as I know, Gustavo never crossed that line - unlike several members who did and continue to visit and post in MTF without any kind of problem.

Gustavo can be sometimes harsh and annoying, but he is far from being a bad person. He is also nice, a good buddy who has simply a strong personality and likes to have an opinion on every subject. He is also one of the few intelligent persons in here that understand that this is an internet forum, not the United Nations with the protocols, the fake smiles and the "Yes, sir" guys. This is MTF, a place where people discuss tennis on a passionate way.

The only crime Gustavo can be accused of is having a heart and not having a weak personality, being able to step up and say no to some of the "untouchable" persons in here. Punishing people for loving tennis so much that in the heat of the conversations they say something politically incorrect is killing the community.

People just take the Internet too seriously and want to create a whole new personality, different of the one they have in the real life. Gu is what he is and I praise him for being like that. For the ones that wanted to be like Gu and end up hiding on MTF, get some attitude. But not here showing who's the boss. Do it in real life, where it REALLY counts.

And yes, I stopped playing TT (although I may play Shanghai) mainly because I don't feel like part of this community anymore. It's just too strict for me.

Gustavo, you have my support!
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:11 PM   #33
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He was not my friend. I do not know him. I don't know. Maybe he hides from Muslims ( it seems that he had terrible, irrational fear of all Muslims ).
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It is good that he did not get death penalty or something alike.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:16 PM   #34
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What a ridiculous decision. How can he be banned for 6 months for apparently "insulting a nation" (personally I have never seen Glenn cross the line, his stuff in GM is just a bit of entertainment and no-one should take it personally) when I have seen many other posters insult whole nations and even go into those nations' players forums and troll in there, and nothing is done. It seems he just got into an argument with the wrong people and paid the price. But a ridiculously over-the-top price. 6 months ban is a joke
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:17 PM   #35
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The ban decision was a bit harsh in my opinion. Personally, I haven't ever had any problems with GlennMirnyi, nor was I ever defamed by him. If it's true that there was not a single warning, it's a complete joke situation

I hope it will be all set up nicely
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:21 PM   #36
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I'm sure whoever sentenced this ban for him has their reasons. However, I can't seem to think of a single one to justify this 6-month ban. None.

Many posters signing this petition supporting GlennMirnyi despite their previous disagreements. Many posts here were left with reasons suggesting that the banning with such length is unnecessary. Why can't these reasons - at the very least - be taken into consideration as well?
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:28 PM   #37
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can someone tell me what he has done what got him suspended?
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:30 PM   #38
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Let me just put it this way: this forum NEEDS Gu.

And let me add, if Adeegee says the forum needs Gu, believe me, the forum needs Gu.

I miss him. It is so boring to read only great compliments about each player, even though you know the poster means something else. We need Gu to call it as it is.


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Old 10-30-2007, 05:42 PM   #39
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A six month ban, sans any kind of warning seems inappropriately harsh. I do not know what exactly took place to precipitate it, but it comes across as pretty unfair to lay blame at the doorstep of one person, when it is clear that MANY have posted what has been deemed to be "inappropriate."

Certainly a private discussion, by way of pm or something similar, would have been more just, before delivering a ban like this one. I always thought that before it happened, everyone was afforded the chance to adjust and/or rectify their situation, prior to ban as extreme as this. Very inconsistent policy.
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:20 PM   #40
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Was it Nelly?

EDIT: Forget my question, I don't want to get banned
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GlennMirnyi and I have clashed in the past, sometimes heatedly, so we are hardly what you would call the best of friends.

Yet I consider this ban to be unjust, unnecessarily harsh, and the whole situation has been handled poorly from the start.

I do not believe this ban is necessary at this time and I think it should be reversed, on the understanding that any future trouble will see it reinstated.

I'd be the first to agree he needs to reel it in a little sometimes but there's plenty of other people who post moronic things and aren't banned for six months as a result, and plenty of people who take exception to his brutal style of posting about some players and treat it like an attack upon themselves, attacking him personally in response. In my book that's their problem not his and he shouldn't be scapegoated for that.
Scoobs said it very well.
I'm not the best of mates with GlennMirnyi either and I've had my fights with him but I've got over it. No need to take what he says personally. Exactly as Scoobs said, it's not GlennMirnyi's problem if some people do so.
I don't know exactly what he said but the 6-month-ban seems to be too harsh considering other things that are posted on this forum.
I just wanted to say that I personally have no problem with him if you want my take on the matter. And I hope this issue can be solved in a more amicable manner.
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Are posters typically banned for 6m without any prior warnings?
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... if we got rid of all of them this place would be about as exciting as a Federer match is to Mirka.


Yes, bring him back.
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I'll be honest: the way Glenn carries on in GM has been annoying enough to make me leave threads in the past. He may be intelligent, but obsessively stating the same one-liners over and over again is not an intelligent mode of discourse. I don't find his dismissiveness refreshingly un-PC -- I just find it rude.

At the same time, I have had nice experiences outside of GM with Glenn. He knows a lot about tennis, and has much to contribute to the forum.

It's hard to comment on the ban without knowing the details. I support openness and tolerance in the forum (though posters should understand that with this freedom comes a responsibility to practice restraint and tolerance oneself). If penalties are to be imposed, they should be applied consistently and unambiguously -- and that is what appears to be problematic in this situation.
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I support this petition,too. Gu didnt deserve that.
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