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Old 11-06-2007, 02:15 AM   #151
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Stebs, scarecrows, Merton of a few have posted here and you can't find more respected posters than them. I could go on with this list.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:50 AM   #152
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funny how there are 10 pages of posts supporting Gu (and some very respected posters i mus add) and still no mod has even bothered giving an answer to the numerous questions asked concerning his banning


It might sound weird to you but there´s life outside MTF and people have more important things in their lives than losing their time bc some people are moaning like little kids bc a guy has been banned from a section of a tennis board, tool.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:06 AM   #153
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sorry Deivid, you're not my type

you're trying hard to get my attention but I dont love you back
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:18 AM   #154
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Apparently I have been kicked off from the moderating for having too much of private life, so I assume the ones who stayed are devoted to moderating enough hence they deserve still doing it. Bad explaination.

Yes, the petition was started for some fun, but honestly saying I am surprised it has been on for so long and nobody decided to speak up, not only Gustavo needs to be given reasons of such a harsh ban (nobody has contacted him since the petition has been published and many points brought up), but also the people who posted here are probably owed something. We are a community here, many of us have spent here few years of daily posting. It is apparently going away from what Gu has done, and going to what the mods have done not. It also has nothing to do with a thread started chatting with GlennMirnyi in GM or NT or if she finds his posts funny or not.

I know very well how the bans were given in the past, I remember how many millions of warnings Just Cause had, or Erhnam had. Both were kicked out deservedly but the number of second chances they got was uncountable. Also the progression of temp bans looked very appropriate in both cases. Why such a sudden change of behaviour in GlennMirnyi's cause? Because of "We accepted him for so long, time to just give him a long break, he should have guessed it was going to happen one day"? Bad thinking track if it's the real one.

People who normally argue with him, even in nasty words, came here and apart from posting 2K characters on what a moron Gustavo is, also mentioned how bad the situation has been handled and the ban is too harsh.

This is very subjective if he is or is not the biggest troll around, he has violated the rules several times and deserves a punishment, hardly anyone questions it even if finds his activity colourful for GM. We question the LENGHT of it, regarding the fact Gu has already understood the fact his sense of humour stopped being tolerated and he needs to change. And check how he has replied in this thread to the ones who have hydeparked him. I haven't seen anything insulting, just light self-defence.

He isn't one of those who count the days to come back just to "show 'em all" and be "the troll of the century" like some of the ones on a perm ban right now. He isn't startring second accounts. He doesn't go around and calls the mods names. Only he is upset that with having so much support of our thesis, nobody from "above" bothers.

This is human to make mistakes also on judging the situation. This is why in democratic countries we have the institution of appeal. This is our appeal from the sentence, and I know that the mod council wants to believe this place is a democracy, therefore Gu, myself, and a lot of MTF posters (check the number of views of this thread) would be very glad to know the final decision and the reasoning.

Also please keep in mind it has been on for many days, and no nasty fight has aroused in here, it isn't typical for this forum, is it?

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Old 11-06-2007, 12:28 PM   #155
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I'm not sure if people checked this:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/announcement.php?f=2

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Old 11-06-2007, 05:29 PM   #156
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Of course, there won't be any reaction or justification from the mods and admins beyond the statement already given in the ban-thread.

Still, this thread does have it's purpose for raising some questions about the rules and their "selective" use on different members. This ban was handled bad, but once the ban is decided the admis won't go back on their decision (legitimate or not). Nathalie, I think this thread and it's message won't go unnoticed by the mods and admins, but don't expect any response from them, you should know better.

Personally, I don't care about Glenn and his ban. He knew he was walking on thin ice the whole time and just had it coming for him sooner or later. I think he's smart enough to learn from this ban. Sometimes "less" is better than "more".
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:41 PM   #157
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free gu!
just wanted to make the list longer!
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:44 AM   #158
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Personally, I don't care about Glenn and his ban. He knew he was walking on thin ice the whole time and just had it coming for him sooner or later. I think he's smart enough to learn from this ban. Sometimes "less" is better than "more".
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:15 PM   #159
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Glenn isn't that much of a dumb ass, though he plays one on the forums, and while he deserved a "stern talking to," 6 months from GM for a paying member is a bit much. A warning and a short term ban would have sufficed, a longer ban pending if such behavior continued. In all seriousness with the antics and asshattery of GM aside, all that he needed to be told was to stop the offensive posts, trolling, and causing threads to go off topic with accusatory remarks. He's not that dimwitted that he wouldn't learn from this ban whereas some of our other more "uninformed" members would repeat the same mistake, warranting a permanent ban.

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Old 11-09-2007, 05:01 AM   #160
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Ok, so I got some "traitor" comments and a thumbs up comments. Let me elaborate.

Like I said, he doesn't deserve the six months but I do agree with a temporary ban--it's daunting for new members to join and post when every thread they open is in the process of an all out flame war, many times initiated by the same members. This is an open community with the purpose of growth, welcoming (not flaming) new members, and discussing tennis. Once people start assuming the "asshole" role 24/7 just because they've been a part of a community for a long time, it's time to be sent to the corner for a time out. Just my thoughts. I liken this to one of my teachers going to prison for 12 years for consensual sex with a student A lesser punishment followed by a ban if it continues.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:48 AM   #161
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Someone thinks its funny to delete my posts because I actually had a valid point, what a joke.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:07 PM   #162
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Well, you can't accuse me or Gu of this one at least
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:15 PM   #163
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News on the case, Gustavo still is banned with no reducing with the official reason "insulting the nation" while RFK came back after 2 days in glory allowed to post everywhere after his (leaving alone the double account issue and long term trolling) remarks on Israel/Palestine conflict, easily nation-insulting.

I am myself a big fan of talking to people and giving them chances, I find it cool that RFK apologized in a newly made thread, but I guess you follow the main drift of my post.
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R=FK is back already? :retard:

GlennMirnyi does indeed seem to have been harshly punished. Having said that, I'm not missing his posts in GM.
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I have to take some words back, been just informed it was an unfortunate case that RFK temporarily escaped from the whip of justice, he got caught and imprisoned again.

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