[Corey Feldman]

great stuff indeed, the football nutters.

Originally Posted by LeChuck

Speaking of great managers, Lippi has won the biggest trophy in club football, the champions league, with Juve in 1996, and the biggest trophy in international football (or football in general), the world cup, with Italy last year. There can't be too many managers who can boast such an achievement on their CVs.

Beckenbauer musta won everything, as a player and coach.

Lyon 0-3 Rangers

[LeChuck]

Originally Posted by Escude

great stuff indeed, the football nutters.


Beckenbauer musta won everything, as a player and coach.

Yep that's pretty much the case. As a player, he won:
Bayern Munich:
Bundesliga - 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974
German Cup - 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971
European Cup - 1974, 1975, 1976
Cup Winners' Cup - 1967
World Club Cup - 1976
Hamburg:
Bundesliga - 1982
Germany:
World Cup - 1974
European Championships - 1972

As a manager:
Bayern Munich:
Bundesliga - 1994
UEFA Cup - 1996
Germany:
World Cup - 1990

[Corey Feldman]

Ah, so no world cup-european cup double from Der Kaiser.

guess the silver fox Lippi only done that .... old Paul Newman puffing his ciggies on the bench.

[LeChuck]

1974 must have been an awesome year for him, winning the Bundesliga, European Cup and World Cup in such a short space of time.
I think that Roberto Carlos won the European Cup-World Cup double in 2002, although I'm not sure how many other players have won both competitions in the same year.

[LeChuck]

The inventor of Total football, Rinus Michels, came very close to achieving the World Cup-European Championship-European Cup treble as a manager. He won the European Cup with Ajax in 1971, the European Championships with Holland in 1988, and was a runner-up at the World Cup in 1974, when Holland took an early lead and then decided to showboat and take the piss out of their bitter rivals Germany, instead of chasing a second goal, before paying the price for it.

[Corey Feldman]

Originally Posted by LeChuck

I think that Roberto Carlos won the European Cup-World Cup double in 2002, although I'm not sure how many other players have won both competitions in the same year.

Would Ronaldo been part of that as well?

the European Championships with Holland in 1988

Remember Van Basten's volley in that final.

[LeChuck]

Originally Posted by Escude

Would Ronaldo been part of that as well?

I think that Ronaldo was an Inter Milan player during the 2001-2002 season, before signing for Real Madrid after the World Cup.

Remember Van Basten's volley in that final.

Yeah that was just stunning.

[scarecrows]

Originally Posted by LeChuck

I think that Ronaldo was an Inter Milan player during the 2001-2002 season, before signing for Real Madrid after the World Cup.

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correct, he moved after WC after he had promised eternal loyalty to Inter

[LeChuck]

Originally Posted by scarecrows

correct, he moved after WC after he had promised eternal loyalty to Inter

Yeah that was very funny . Inter Milan stuck by him and supported him when he was out for so long with his injuries, and that was how he ended up repaying them.

I don't think that Ronaldo has ever won the champions league during his career, as he was cup tied and ineligible for Milan during the competition last season.

[scarecrows]

Originally Posted by LeChuck

I don't think that Ronaldo has ever won the champions league during his career, as he was cup tied and ineligible for Milan during the competition last season.

hopefully this is the good season for him

[LeChuck]

Originally Posted by scarecrows

hopefully this is the good season for him

Yeah that would be great. He is surely the best player never to have won the competition, with Henry close behind.
I love watching Milan play. It's amazing how many people here in England that I've spoken to think that Milan play negative, defensive football (like Juve), when in fact they are one of the most attractive footballing sides in Europe.

[scarecrows]

Originally Posted by LeChuck

Yeah that would be great. I love watching Milan play. It's amazing how many in here in England that I've spoken to think that Milan play negative, defensive football (like Juve), when in fact they are one of the most attractive footballing sides in Europe.

they try to put all italian teams in the same group while Milan has one of the most creative midfields with Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf

Rome is playing pretty good football lately but they dont have a team that could endure all the season, not many solid subs there

[LeChuck]

Originally Posted by scarecrows

they try to put all italian teams in the same group while Milan has one of the most creative midfields with Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf

Rome is playing pretty good football lately but they dont have a team that could endure all the season, not many solid subs there

I agree Roma squad is pretty short in numbers. I was hoping that they could launch a serious challenge for the title this season, but they could struggle when injuries and suspensions occur.
Regarding Italian football, there have been many seasons in recent times when Serie A has averaged more goals per game, than both La Liga and the Premiership. I enjoy Serie A a lot.
A lot of people think that the Milan team of the late 80s/early 90s was the best footballing side that they have ever seen.

[Corey Feldman]

Enjoyed watching Milan over the years... but they are becoming old dinosaurs - and they cant keep getting lucky can they Genci

[scarecrows]

Originally Posted by LeChuck

A lot of people think that the Milan team of the late 80s/early 90s was the best footballing side that they have ever seen.

I was too young to remember those games but first match I remember watching was 1990 CHL final

Originally Posted by Escude

Enjoyed watching Milan over the years... but they are becoming old dinosaurs - and they cant keep getting lucky can they Genci

if dominating a CHL final for 110 minutes out of 120, and in the end losing it, is called luck, then you have a point