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Old 09-12-2007, 02:29 AM   #1
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Default Where is the Federer that used to bring his best tennis in finals?

Fed used to bring his "A" tennis in important finals, but his last 3 GS finals (especially Wimbledon and US Open finals) have been disappointing quality wise. I've noticed Fed has looked really tight and nervous in both of them. You would have thought he was playing a GS final for the 1st time instead of being an experienced guy who had been through that several times.

He has been very passive in both of those finals. I got the feeling he was waiting for his opponent to make UEs instead of playing his usual attacking tennis and trying to take control of the points. In Wimbledon Nadal was more aggressive than him for most of the match, which was shocking to see. Only in the last part of the 5th set in Wimbledon did he play the way we were used to and it made all the difference.

Is he lacking confidence in his shots that he doesn't go for them too much? Or is the pressure of reaching 14 GS really affecting him? I hope he goes back to playing the way he was late last year and beginning of this year. That was a great pleasure to watch.
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he is currently on vacation.
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it's called Father Time.
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Fed used to bring his "A" tennis in important finals, but his last 3 GS finals (especially Wimbledon and US Open finals) have been disappointing quality wise. I've noticed Fed has looked really tight and nervous in both of them. You would have thought he was playing a GS final for the 1st time instead of being an experienced guy who had been through that several times.

He has been very passive in both of those finals. I got the feeling he was waiting for his opponent to make UEs instead of playing his usual attacking tennis and trying to take control of the points. In Wimbledon Nadal was more aggressive than him for most of the match, which was shocking to see. Only in the last part of the 5th set in Wimbledon did he play the way we were used to and it made all the difference.

Is he lacking confidence in his shots that he doesn't go for them too much? Or is the pressure of reaching 14 GS really affecting him? I hope he goes back to playing the way he was late last year and beginning of this year. That was a great pleasure to watch.
I have to agree that he has seemed to tighten up in the majors' finals this year. It's not surprising really. The older you get and the weight of expectations increases as you get closer to history (i.e. how close Fed is to overtake Sampras's record), you lose that sense of fearlessness that youngsters have. And that would tend to make you feel pressured. Fed is only human after all, and getting older would have to slow him down physically. That he's managed to win 3 out 4 this year is precisely because of his experience in controlling the nerves well enough to win, even if he's not playing his best.
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Default Re: Where is the Federer that used to bring his best tennis in finals?

The standard he's being held to is unreasonable, imo.

Look at any of the other greats in tennis, and you'll see that some of their GS wins were dominating performances, while others were hard-fought, gritty battles. Federer is no different.
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I dont know. I would ask a different question: what tournament Roger played the best match on a final?! Or, at least, a great match on a final. Lets see:

Wimbledon 03: the semi-final was better, but he played great the finals. Australia 04: I agree. Wimbledon 04: not Roger's greatest match. USO 04: best final ever from Roger. Wimbledon 05: great final. USO05: average final, with ups and downs (I wouldnt say that Roger played his A game on most of the match), AO06: average match, but far from his A game (Roger won the last set with Baggy very tired), SW19 06: average match, the worst he played on that year (Roger was amazing up until the finals). USO 06: average match, Roger played what he needed to play (Roger had to play a better match this year against Pandy). AO 07: a good final, but impossible to top his semi-final performance. SW19 07: average performance, on an average tournament overall. USO07: worst match he played on a final, but overall he played a great tournament.

So ... It is not as if Roger always played great matches on finals. I guess memory can be a bit tricky sometimes.
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He shows up only when he has to. He didn't have to this USO. He knew that the occasion would get to Nole. He was right.
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I dont know. I would ask a different question: what tournament Roger played the best match on a final?! Or, at least, a great match on a final. Lets see:

Wimbledon 03: the semi-final was better, but he played great the finals. Australia 04: I agree. Wimbledon 04: not Roger's greatest match. USO 04: best final ever from Roger. Wimbledon 05: great final. USO05: average final, with ups and downs (I wouldnt say that Roger played his A game on most of the match), AO06: average match, but far from his A game (Roger won the last set with Baggy very tired), SW19 06: average match, the worst he played on that year (Roger was amazing up until the finals). USO 06: average match, Roger played what he needed to play (Roger had to play a better match this year against Pandy). AO 07: a good final, but impossible to top his semi-final performance. SW19 07: average performance, on an average tournament overall. USO07: worst match he played on a final, but overall he played a great tournament.

So ... It is not as if Roger always played great matches on finals. I guess memory can be a bit tricky sometimes.
There you go.

Plus i federer played quite well at the AO. We must give some credit to his opponent - esp nadal who some believe shouldnt even win games off federer on grass.

The djokovic final is much more worrying when it comes to passive play. If he plays like that, things will become different.
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The djokovic final is much more worrying when it comes to passive play. If he plays like that, things will become different.

I agree with you. Hopefully it wont become a pattern indeed. Maybe this is the new step on his career, that is making him a bit nervous, like when he was to win his first one. Maybe it is the last obstacle before he can really make a definitive move at breaking Sampras' record.
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USO 06: average match, Roger played what he needed to play (Roger had to play a better match this year against Pandy).

That was a great final from Fed, he had something like 60 winners and only 20 UEs. It doesn't get much better than that.
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That was a great final from Fed, he had something like 60 winners and only 20 UEs. It doesn't get much better than that.
He had too many double faults and faced too many break points. But he had the confidence to know how to handle the moment while Nole did not.
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why does he do the ridiculous backhand chip return time and again to Djokovic? Djokovic is not Roddick, Federer gives up a massive disadvantage on that first shot and is constantly behind in all the points he does that in. Why not go for broke once in a while like Blake does, if you put a couple together you have a break game.
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Boohoo - Fed doesn't double-bagel his GS final opponent every time. He must suck horribly.
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Boohoo - Fed doesn't double-bagel his GS final opponent every time. He must suck horribly.
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