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Old 09-06-2007, 07:39 PM   #3061
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:41 PM   #3062
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Well it's good to hear that, for once, he served well against Roger. Usually he presses too hard and misses too many and DFs a lot.

Ryan, I'm not questioning how he played; I didn't see it so I have no place to do that - you guys say he played well, I am glad about that - still disappointing, but better than the pussy show he put on at the AO - at least he proved that that was an anomaly and that he just mentally did not show up that day and that they really are closer than that, so that's good.

My point is simply that I think that it was the occasion, night match at the USO - his favorite place to be - that helped him raise his level. I have really serious doubts as to whether he will use this as a springing board to give this much effort and to play at this level all the time. I could live with him losing to Roger a lot if he would play like this all the time because he'd beat probably everyone else. But he doesn't. And that's why I'm so skeptical. Believe me, I'd love to be proven wrong - but it's happened so many times before, where he's played a good match and either won or lost, but hasn't used it as a springboard to keep going. It's not being negative or mean or whatever, it's going by what's happened in the past. Save for 2005 USO, which we will just forget, Andy gives his best effort at the USO and at Davis Cup. His desire to win, and his even more intense desire not to lose - at these two events - is palpable. It's why I'm a fan, and it's why it's so frustrating to see him not bring that energy all the time; he'd just be so much more successful if he could do it and because we KNOW he can do it, it's disappointing.
Well, we will just wait and see but last nights effort was herculean, and everyone inside and outside of the tennis world took notice. Amazing stuff. If he moves forward great, if he doesn't ooh well, but I'm happy with Andy I don't care about his year or his ranking, he proved enough in that one match that I don't think I will ever question my fan-man-ship(if that's a word) or doubt his talent again...
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Let's put it like this:

I'd rather Andy play a high quality tennis match like yesterday (where he gave it his all) with Roger playing really well and losing in straight sets than both not playing their best and Andy managing to win a set due to a shitty display from Roger.

Yes, yes and yes. Well done Re, A+ d: It was the kind of match that non-tennis fans would have watched just because of the type of clean, winner-centered tennis they were playing.

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YES But i don't really ever worry about Andy being amped for DC though. That is like, the least of my worries! Andy could be hyped up-crazy for 15 sets if the scoreline read USA not Roddick

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I've said my piece, but to close, for three years I was asking Andy to remind me why I am his fan, he reminded me last night and every other Roddick fan who saw the match...he's a guy with the heart of a champion. Is there any other more endearing quality?
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My point is simply that I think that it was the occasion, night match at the USO - his favorite place to be - that helped him raise his level. I have really serious doubts as to whether he will use this as a springing board to give this much effort and to play at this level all the time. I could live with him losing to Roger a lot if he would play like this all the time because he'd beat probably everyone else. But he doesn't. And that's why I'm so skeptical. Believe me, I'd love to be proven wrong - but it's happened so many times before, where he's played a good match and either won or lost, but hasn't used it as a springboard to keep going.
I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination, dreaming that this good match will mean that Andy will start playing like this week in, week out (although, boy, that would be GOOD) but it is the most encouraging sign i've seen in a while. I really started to feel that Andy was doomed to mediocre successes, stuck in this limbo behind the top 3 (and Davydenko?!) and even the strong performances against ToJo and Baghdatis didn't persuade me much. The matches were good, sure, but the competition wasn't amazing. But last night, he stepped up to the plate, and i'm proud. I'm sure the situation (USO, night match, partisan crowd etc) played a big part, but he hasn't played that well in a long time, even at the USO, i think.
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I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination, dreaming that this good match will mean that Andy will start playing like this week in, week out (although, boy, that would be GOOD) but it is the most encouraging sign i've seen in a while. I really started to feel that Andy was doomed to mediocre successes, stuck in this limbo behind the top 3 (and Davydenko?!) and even the strong performances against ToJo and Baghdatis didn't persuade me much. The matches were good, sure, but the competition wasn't amazing. But last night, he stepped up to the plate, and i'm proud. I'm sure the situation (USO, night match, partisan crowd etc) played a big part, but he hasn't played that well in a long time, even at the USO, i think.
Well that's great. I just hope it wasn't all for naught - losing AGAIN and *still* not moving forward from it. Of course we have to wait and see, it's just hard, when you know someone can do better, you get greedy
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I finished watching the match (I was away) and all I have to say is...Too Good.

Oh, and to Andre
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I watched it last night but then had school (physic/chemistry/math in a morning after going to bed past midnight is not fun ) so I missed all the discussion.

All I have to say is fucking wow.
I wasn't expecting much. I was HOPING he would fight.
Pff he did more than that.
I was smiling and he was losing - which says a lot.
I'm very very very proud of Andy.

Also what's this piece of cake thing?
Roger didn't say that, did he?
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Andre asked about his training regimen, which whoever the guy is who does the interviews repeated to him. He named a few things...running, weights, practicing etc...and the guy said sarcastically, "Piece of cake?" And Roger chuckled and repeated it, "Yeah, piece of cake."

Absolutely nothing related to the match or Andy or anything...
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yep that was misconstrued as usual by the media yet again sigh!
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Good lord. That is ridiculous. Talk about a stretch X:.
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Andre just basically sat there and waxed poetic about Roger for over 2 hours. It's annoying to be on the edge of your seat, watching Andy serving and all you hear is Andre yacking about the magnificence of Roger. It gets old

Yes, he's great, we know, move on.
But it was great to hear new insights into what Roger does well. Andre was awesome. It's rare I hear some strategic or technical observations that haven't already been said a hundred times.

Andre gave Andy his props too, I thought.

It was really disappointing to see Andy lose those sets after playing so well. And yet... I knew it was coming. A cruel game. Hats off to Fed.
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The fact that Roger had to play well is also testament to Andy's level of play.

And although the Wimbledon 04 final was closer by scoreline (as i think he pointed about in the press conference), i think this match was much better. Andy really was thinking about how he was approaching the points. He wasn't just blindly hitting hard, he was varying shots. Good viewing
Wise words, I totally agree Bring on DC, I hope this is Andy's and the US's year.

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But it was great to hear new insights into what Roger does well. Andre was awesome. It's rare I hear some strategic or technical observations that haven't already been said a hundred times.

Andre gave Andy his props too, I thought.

It was really disappointing to see Andy lose those sets after playing so well. And yet... I knew it was coming. A cruel game. Hats off to Fed.
Wise Fairy, followed up by wise Q Andre was such a breath of fresh air in the commentary booth, providing insight you don't normally hear and which I'd be happy to listen to more of in the future
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Even though he went down in straights, I was really proud of him last night. He didn't back down and once again, made ROger play some of his best tennis to beat him. Roger's best usually always comes when he plays Andy because he respects him a whole lot, and also he knows how dangerous Andy can be.

That being said, obviously it being in the states, and a night match at the USO helped him play extremely well, but I really do hope he continues this play and stops being such a pansy. I know he usually plays whatever vs players he knows he can beat even with a D game . Though if he always forces the issue, ges after his forehands like he did last night, he would get into a groove much more easily and he wont be so afraid of hitting those shots when it's crunch time.

The year isn't lost yet. He was still very solid at the Slams this year, bar Wimbledon (still decent result, but still), and we all know to just X off RG every year . The USA can easily nab the DC cup, which would be huge for them as a team. I don't expect Andy to win one of the remaining two TMS titles indoors. Federer is bound to play one, and even if, it's in Europe; somewhere that Andy still isn't completely comfortable and at ease with. He'll gain points at TMC, that's for sure; even more if he's in opposite groups as Fed.
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