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Old 08-22-2010, 09:21 PM   #1411
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Rafa [10800ish]:

0 - WTF Round Robin
720 - USO Semis
600 - Shanghai Final
360 - Paris Semis
180 - Beijing 500 Semis

Roger [7215]:

400 - WTF Semis
1,200 - USO Final
10 - Paris R32
0 - Shanghai
300 - Basel (500) Final
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:33 PM   #1412
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That leaves Rafa with 8885.

And Roger with 5305.

With the USO, two Masters, the WTF (1500 pts), a 500 and a 250 tournament on both of their schedules.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:40 PM   #1413
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Probably not so many gains here, but indian wells, miami, dubai, rome, RG, and Wimby for sure
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:40 AM   #1414
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Thankyou so so much my GOD!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 11-29-2010, 06:45 PM   #1415
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I was saying before that Roger can gain number one after Wimbledon 2011, and his strong end to 2010 means this is now very much possible!

Look at the points that Roger and Rafa have gained post-wimbledon 2010:



Roger has a lead of 1310 over Rafa.

This means that they will race to the conclusion of Wimbledon 2011 with Roger having a 1310 point headstart to determine who is number one post-wimbledon 2011.

Here is how the points will fall off up to that point:

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Old 11-29-2010, 10:32 PM   #1416
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Too bad he blew those matchpoints against Monfils and Djokovic... how many ranking points lost there? 800? But he can still do it anyway! Go Roger!
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Old 11-30-2010, 06:48 AM   #1417
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:37 PM   #1418
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I was saying before that Roger can gain number one after Wimbledon 2011, and his strong end to 2010 means this is now very much possible!

Look at the points that Roger and Rafa have gained post-wimbledon 2010:



Roger has a lead of 1310 over Rafa.

This means that they will race to the conclusion of Wimbledon 2011 with Roger having a 1310 point headstart to determine who is number one post-wimbledon 2011.

Here is how the points will fall off up to that point:

yes with the WTF win it's promising that roger can gain back #1 after wimbledom 2011... or maybe even USOpen 2011... but let's not carried away just because of the WTF win... just like AO 2010 we were all thinking (myself including) that sampras 286 weeks will be broken... and then roger just flunked and missed out by 1 week... besides he didn't gain as much distance (from nadal) as i would liked him to... and don't forget that it's a good chance that nadal is likely to clean most of the clay titles up as usual... so even the 1310 points "head start" might not be enough...

at this moment there are still much uncertainties... i wouldn't put the chances of overtaking nadal above 50% at the moment... i think we'll have to wait until after AOpen 2011 at least and see how well it goes by then...

and still not to mention roger is 29 going 30 next yr... i'm not expecting him to perform as consistently as 2004-2006... simply because (1) roger won't be getting younger nor fitter and (2) the competition in the current generation is better than 2004-2006... JesusFed turned up whole of this WTF... i'm sure he will turn up again for years to come... and when JesusFed turns up i think nobody could stop him... but the big question is how consistently we will see JesusFed appear through out entire tournaments...


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Old 11-30-2010, 05:33 PM   #1419
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Yeah, the bottom line is, Federer is going to have to beat Nadal outdoors on a big stage to do it. Only non-choking JesusFed can do that. Everything has to work: first serve, 2nd serve, forehand, backhand, return of serve, volleys, defence, & all on the big points, not just when 40-0 up.
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:14 AM   #1420
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:59 PM   #1421
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Are we still updating this thread with working our possible permutations that could see Roger edge towards the top rank again? If so, it is worth noting that Rafa cannot add to his Grand Slam points any more this year. Of course Roger could potentially make up some lost ground at the FO, WIM and USO, but he could lose 1280 points here at the AO too.

Given Fed's light schedule (I'm still angry with him for deciding not to participate in Monte Carlo), it will be imperative to do well at the remaining Slams and Masters until Wimbledon / the US Open series if he has ambitions to surpass Sampras as the player with the most weeks ranked at #1. He cannot just rely on Rafa to slip up - bear in mind that Rafa actually defended all of his points from the AO last year.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:35 PM   #1422
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If he wins the AO and puts in decent performances in Key Biscayne/Miami, I hope he asks for a wild card at Monte Carlo...
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:43 PM   #1423
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Are we still updating this thread with working our possible permutations that could see Roger edge towards the top rank again? If so, it is worth noting that Rafa cannot add to his Grand Slam points any more this year. Of course Roger could potentially make up some lost ground at the FO, WIM and USO, but he could lose 1280 points here at the AO too.

Given Fed's light schedule (I'm still angry with him for deciding not to participate in Monte Carlo), it will be imperative to do well at the remaining Slams and Masters until Wimbledon / the US Open series if he has ambitions to surpass Sampras as the player with the most weeks ranked at #1. He cannot just rely on Rafa to slip up - bear in mind that Rafa actually defended all of his points from the AO last year.
Well post-Wimbledon Roger boasts a +1830 lead over Nadal including the Australian up and until this stage. If Roger were to win tonight this would increase to +2310, and the Championship would give him a +3110 lead.

I don't want to jump the gun but any of these scenarios are quite positive, especially the second two.

In addition post-AO (and after a decent rest) Rog has Dubai (worth 500 pts) before both he and Rafa play Indian Wells and Miami. Given Roger's form over the last 6-months I would expect him to outperform Nadal.

Going into the clay season a decent estimate could be a +3000 lead (if all went superbly this could be nudging around the +4000 mark) which would give him a good buffer to defend against the inevitable shortfalls (as compared to Rafa) in the clay season.

In sum, much depends on his performance in the next few days and then in Spring... he has the potential to gain ALOT. His performances at Roland Garros and Wimbledon will need to improve in relation to Nadal. In my opinion #1 is doable - Fed now has a >50% chance.

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mmm... He can return to No. 1 after Rome or RG if he play well on hard in dubai, IW and Miami
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Well now we are at the part of the season where things were awful last year. Lots of points to gain!
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