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By request from a few members to create a separate from Judio's thread with updated rankings, I will start this thread for frequent unofficial live ATP rankings. I will have a small break sometime in the future, but I will return afterwards, so don't worry if there will be a small interruption in the near future.

Now, one advantage to a new thread is that I can explain the color code and display mode for the table.

- The table displays current ranking standings by calculating the number of points dropped at the end of the period mentioned on the head table (the next official ATP rankings date).
- The Drop column details the number of points for all the tournaments that will be taken out of the player's rankings. Multiple tournaments may be dropped for each player, but the tournament with the most points dropped will determine the color of the drop points. For instance, 180 Wimbledon dropped along with 45 ATP 250 in the week after Wimbledon will result in 225 colored in red (Grand Slam color).
- The Gain column displays the total number of points the player has raised at the current tournament.
- The Effective column is the exact number of points the player will win or lose at the next official ranking. The total here is calculated based on all tournaments dropped and all tournaments played (GS qualies, Futures and all other tournaments that will be counted at the next official rankings). The color is determined again by the tournament with most points.
- The second Points column is for the next week after the current week. When no Grand Slam is being played, all current Futures tournaments are first counted there, since they won't be part of the rankings until a week later. Also, all next week's qualifiers will be counted there.
- In all weeks an additional Incoming Futures column is being displayed, along with the total tournament count calculated in advance so that the players with the same number of points are separated properly.
- During Grand Slam qualies another column with the points made there (not yet Live) is added. And during Grand Slams, another column with the points from the tournament is added in case a player goes to another tournament after the GS or GS qualies, but before the next official rankings.
- In the detailed week by week part of the table, you will encounter -1 points for certain players. Those tournaments are actually the tournaments in which the player has received a 0-point penalty for retiring or for not completing at least 4 ATP 500 tournaments in a year.


The colors used as background inside the table mean:
Green - The player is currently not eliminated from the Main Draw.
Red - The player was eliminated from the Main Draw or Qualifying Draw.
Blue - The player is currently playing on the Qualifying Draw.
Orange - The player has retired from any match.
Gray - The player has withdrawn from the tournament, but will incur a 0-point penalty. This will be noted as a -1 in case of ATP 500 events, and 0 in case of ATP 1000. This is due to the fact that ATP 1000 events are recognized as Mandatory by the system, while ATP 500 events are not, and there needs to be a difference between regular 0 (first round loss) and mandatory 0 (penalty).
White - The player currently does not participate in a tournament.


The colors used for text inside the table mean:
Red - The player is/was on a Grand Slam Main Draw
Regular orange - The player is/was on a ATP 1000 Mandatory Masters Main Draw
Light orange - The player is/was on a ATP 1000 Optional (MC) Masters Main Draw
Maroon - The player is/was on the ATP Tour Finals Main Draw
Green - The player is/was on a ATP 500 Main Draw
Olive - The player is/was on the Olympics Main Draw
Purple - The player is/was on a ATP 250 Main Draw
Plum - The player is/was on the World Team Championships tournament
Sky Blue - The player participated in the Davis Cup
Teal - The player is/was on the ATP Challenger Finals
Blue - The player is/was on a Challenger Main Draw
Navy - The player is/was on a 15K Futures Main Draw
Black - The player is/was on a 10K Futures Main Draw
Gray - The player participates on the Qualifying Draw of any tournament
Silver - The player does not participate in a tournament

Link to weekly rankings statistics: Ranking Statistics
Link to old ATP Rankings thread: Old ATP Rankings Thread

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With all the instructions being laid, here comes the table:

Link to complete table: LIVE ATP

Link to official rankings from past Mondays: OFFICIAL RANKINGS

THIS THREAD IS NOW OBSOLETE. FOR RANKINGS UPDATES, CHECK THIS THREAD:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=236585
 
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#231 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

As of qualifying results and Sunday results of Cinci.
 

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#245 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

new ranking entries from this week (13 august 2012):

Code:
1077	Stephen Hoh (AUS)		28.02.1991
1270	Olivier Charroin (FRA)		10.03.1982
1390	Mikelis Libietis (LAT)		09.07.1992
1390	Kevin King (USA)		28.02.1991
1419	Arjun Kadhe (IND)		07.01.1994
1551	Philipp Dittmer (GER)		11.03.1991
1551	Ryan Lipman (USA)		10.10.1990
1551	Krisjanis Stabins (LAT)		28.06.1989
1551	Leonardo Reami Da Cunha (BRA)	01.03.1992
1551	Jeroen Vanneste (BEL)		17.01.1994
1651	Ryan Thomas (AUS)		25.01.1986
[U]1651	Noah Rubin (USA)		21.02.1996[/U]
1651	Myles Orton (GBR)		23.03.1994
1651	Lloyd Glasspool (GBR)		19.11.1993
1843	Uros Petronijevic (SRB)		21.03.1993
 
#246 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

best/worst movers of this week for top 100/200/500:

best movers top 100:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
82	+23		Adrian Ungur (ROU)		25.01.1985
84	+19		Simone Bolelli (ITA)		08.10.1985
95	+15		Roberto Bautista-Agut (ESP)	14.04.1988
85	+12		Flavio Cipolla (ITA)		20.10.1983
38	+9		Jeremy Chardy (FRA)		12.02.1987
71	+9		Matthew Ebden (AUS)		26.11.1987
13	+8		Richard Gasquet (FRA)		18.06.1986
59	+7		Fabio Fognini (ITA)		24.05.1987
75	+7		Jurgen Zopp (EST)		29.03.1988
29	+6		Sam Querrey (USA)		07.10.1987
63	+6		Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ)		26.12.1987
worst movers top 100:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
91	-18		Malek Jaziri (TUN)		20.01.1984
86	-11		Michael Llodra (FRA)		18.05.1980
45	-8		Carlos Berlocq (ARG)		03.02.1983
65	-8		Ivo Karlovic (CRO)		28.02.1979
20	-7		Mardy Fish (USA)		09.12.1981
35	-7		Gael Monfils (FRA)		01.09.1986
92	-7		Tobias Kamke (GER)		21.05.1986
97	-7		Jan Hajek (CZE)			07.08.1983
best movers top 200:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
169	+36		Robert Farah (COL)		20.01.1987
138	+30		Dusan Lajovic (SRB)		30.06.1990
188	+30		Arnau Brugues-Davi (ESP)	05.03.1985
82	+23		Adrian Ungur (ROU)		25.01.1985
84	+19		Simone Bolelli (ITA)		08.10.1985
95	+15		Roberto Bautista-Agut (ESP)	14.04.1988
119	+12		Michael Berrer (GER)		01.07.1980
183	+12		Jimmy Wang (TPE)		08.02.1985
196	+12		Josh Goodall (GBR)		17.10.1985
85	+12		Flavio Cipolla (ITA)		20.10.1983
162	+10		Jan Hernych (CZE)		07.07.1979
worst movers top 200:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
167	-31		Paul Capdeville (CHI)		02.04.1983
143	-23		Ernests Gulbis (LAT)		30.08.1988
194	-23		Izak Van der Merwe (RSA)	26.01.1984
130	-19		Potito Starace (ITA)		14.07.1981
91	-18		Malek Jaziri (TUN)		20.01.1984
104	-18		Philipp Petzschner (GER)	24.03.1984
105	-16		Michael Russell (USA)		01.05.1978
116	-16		Ivan Dodig (CRO)		02.01.1985
86	-11		Michael Llodra (FRA)		18.05.1980
best movers top 500:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
237	+141		Steve Johnson (USA)		24.12.1989
382	+112		Ilija Bozoljac (SRB)		02.08.1985
390	+82		N.Sriram Balaji (IND)		18.03.1990
489	+66		Bradley Klahn (USA)		20.08.1990
290	+64		Farrukh Dustov (UZB)		22.05.1986
438	+61		Marin Bradaric (CRO)		05.09.1985
302	+45		Oleksandr Nedovyesov (UKR)	15.02.1987
274	+40		David Guez (FRA)		08.12.1982
387	+38		Saketh Myneni (IND)		19.10.1987
375	+36		Yannik Reuter (BEL)		06.03.1991
169	+36		Robert Farah (COL)		20.01.1987
worst movers top 500:
Code:
[U]Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate[/U]
265	-44		Marc Gicquel (FRA)		30.03.1977
487	-43		Vladimir Ivanov (EST)		10.04.1987
439	-39		Carsten Ball (AUS)		20.06.1987
440	-37		Miljan Zekic (SRB)		12.07.1988
321	-36		Tennys Sandgren (USA)		22.07.1991
385	-34		Greg Ouellette (USA)		19.05.1986
413	-32		Benjamin Balleret (MON)		15.01.1983
167	-31		Paul Capdeville (CHI)		02.04.1983
481	-31		Karan Rastogi (IND)		08.10.1986
490	-31		Ranjeet Virali-Murugesan (IND)	30.09.1985
 
#248 · (Edited)
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

As of August 13 results

 

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#251 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

I have a question:
Next year Fed won't be commited to play any 1000-masters.

Due to the rules he is allowed to skip 2 masters-1000 without penalty this year, but he got zero points for toronto into his ranking.
What advantage does this punishment-free skipping of masters brings him - someone who says he's tired and can't play the mandatory event will get the same "penalty"?!

And what about next year if he won't play any masters?
- will he get 8 0-pointer in the ranking or
- will get rid of the "commited-player"-status and the best results will be counted?
 
#253 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

A question that I haven't been able to find the answer to:

How are ties in ranking points broken? For example, if two guys have 1000 points in the standings, how is it determined who would be 39th and who would be 40th?
Based on combined Masters and Slam points who has the most. then if same least number of tournaments and if still the same who has the highest point from a single tournament.


I have a question:
Next year Fed won't be commited to play any 1000-masters.

Due to the rules he is allowed to skip 2 masters-1000 without penalty this year, but he got zero points for toronto into his ranking.
What advantage does this punishment-free skipping of masters brings him - someone who says he's tired and can't play the mandatory event will get the same "penalty"?!

And what about next year if he won't play any masters?
- will he get 8 0-pointer in the ranking or
- will get rid of the "commited-player"-status and the best results will be counted?
The is exception is only for money penalty, not for points. If his in the entry list of a Masters and he skips he will have a 0 pointer.
 
#258 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

As of August 14 Results
 

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#259 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

How far could Rafa fall if he doesn't play until WTF or for the rest of the year?
 
#261 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

How far could Rafa fall if he doesn't play until WTF or for the rest of the year?
95 % he will stay in top 4, 99.9% stays in top 5 . Unless a player ranked below played extremely well. Ferrer will need about 2840 points until the end of the year to finish ahead of him, Del Potro about 3840, Beldrych/Tsonga/Tipsaveric little more 4000 ?


Take a look at the race ranking (points earned in 2012)http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/YTD-Singles.aspx
 
#262 ·
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Rafa has 6840 race points. In 2011 year end rankings that would have given him #4 position (after excluding himself). So #4 is most likely, #5 possible if someone other than Roger, Nole or Andy catch fire.
 
#266 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

Updated with the results of August 15th.

And yes, Duong, just like MC is displayed with the Masters because of the tournament's point limit. Monte Carlo is a Masters ATP 1000, even if it's part of the 500 commitment. The Olympics is somewhere between 500 and 1000 point-wise, but it's not a Masters. Davis Cup is a 500 because the maximum number of points a player can achieve all year long in the DC is 625.:)
 
#267 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

Updates with August 16 Results
 

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#270 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

Yo guys, hope you don't mind me posting this here, it's not worth a new thread and this seem like the thread for ranking discussion.

I was thinking about the current number one situation, how Federer currently only holds 1 GS while Djkocovic holds 2.

I had a look through the rankings from the year 2000 onwards and noticed just how rare this is.

With the exception of three small instances the world number one (since Jan 2000) has held either the most grand slam titles out of any player, or the equal most.

The three exceptions are:

Federer @ no1. Post Wimbledon 08-mid August 08. (Federer held US Open, Nadal held Wimby/French)

Nadal @ no1. French Open 10- Wimbledon 10 (Federer held Wimby and Aus, Nadal only the French)

Federer @ no1. Wimbledon 12-now (Federer holds Wimby, Djokovic holds Aus and US).

I think this backs up the efficiency of the ranking system, and means that it's very rare for number one not to be the true number one.

Even in the 3 exception cases it was just a transition period. In the case of (1) Nadal took number one not long after becoming "slam dominant", and in the case of (2) Nadal changed the GS stats by winning Wimby four weeks after taking number 1, so both of these were just transition peroids.

This current one will probably be the same, with either Djokovic not retaining the US Open and then Federer will be clear number one until at least WTF, or Djokovic will defend and then inevitabley take number one back not long after, if not already.
 
#271 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

This current one will probably be the same, with either Djokovic not retaining the US Open and then Federer will be clear number one until at least WTF, or Djokovic will defend and then inevitabley take number one back not long after, if not already.
or Djokovic winning Cinci and Fed not reaching the final (that's the condition now for Djokovic being number 1 next monday) and then Djokovic getting to number 1 back, then the same thing happens in the US Open, and Djokovic keeps the number 1 probably until the end of the year ;)
 
#272 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

Yesyesok about your an analysis I laughed about the way you say "very seldom the number 1 is not the true number 1" as it sounds so obvious and indisputable for you that the "real number 1" is the one who has won most grand slams :lol:

But when you say that this stat since 2000 "proves the efficiency of the rankings", I have one thinh to say about the significance of that stat :

- in the beginning of the 00s, the usual situation was that the grand slams were shared between players, nobody being the owner of 2 slams : I had checked about this since the beginning of the open era and I think it's interesting to know (esp. for young people who have only known the situation in the last 10 years) that that situation happened approximately one third of the time ; maybe it will happen soon again if Murray or Del Potro wins the US Open ;

- from 2004 to 2007 Fed was so dominant that the same result could be achieved either with grand slams or masters 1000 or whatever.
 
#273 ·
Re: Unofficial Live ATP Rankings

Yesyesok about your an analysis I laughed about the way you say "very seldom the number 1 is not the true number 1" as it sounds so obvious and indisputable for you that the "real number 1" is the one who has won most grand slams :lol:
Bad choice of words I agree,I more mean the most succesful in the past year at the big events.

I didn't watch tennis until the early 2000s so my knowledge of pre millenium is somewhat wikipedia based.
 
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