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Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Congratulations Cava and balloon/Cava!

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Tennis Tipping #27b – WINNETKA


What is Tennis Tipping?
In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

Note:
- In case of a tie, a tie-breaker will decide who moves on to the next round.
- In case a player (i.e. the actual ATP Player) retires in a match, this match will be counted as long as one point has been played. If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

How to Sign-Up:
Just post here that you would like to play. You can only play one tournament per week. Entries will be based on ranking. Everyone can commit.
Please read this post for more information
http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...14&postcount=1

How to send in picks:
Picks can be sent in as soon as the draws are ready. Remember, you pick a winner in every match!. Picks should be sent by PM, so that your opponent does not know your picks. Picks should be titled: [TT: Winnetka, day #]. Picks can be sent in anytime until the beginning of play each day. If you're still in both singles & doubles, you use the same tips for both. For doubles, you still tip the ATP singles matches, not the doubles! No changes can be made after the play has started.

PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE
If the board goes down as has happened before, send your picks to kingroger1@hotmail.de
 
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#106 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Only three participants sent with 3.5 hours till deadline .
 
#111 · (Edited)
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

I thought about rescheduling this round for tommorow but some ppl which didn't send could send the official OOP(as some did) :wavey:

Saturday Differences

guille&tati4life replaces Mishka Logvi

Singles Qualifing

00:00 | (1) balloon (SIN) vs. Ionut (ROU) - HILTZIK, BAZARNIK, JACKSON, GRAVES vs. LLANES, VERRYTH, ROWE, KOPINSKI SR Differences: HILTZIK 2-0 vs. LLANES 2-0, BAZARNIK 2-0 vs. VERRYTH 2-0, JACKSON 2-0 vs. ROWE 2-0, GRAVES 2-0 vs. KOPINSKI 2-0
00:00 | Holmzy (IRL) vs. (5) Calgary Flames (CAN) - QUIGLEY, DMITRIEV, GRAVES vs. HOH , ZIEBA, KOPINSKI
00:00 | (ALT) guille&tati4life (URU) vs. juddy96 (CAN) - Missing picks from juddy96
00:00 | Ozone (USA) vs. (8) Demonsky (SVK) - Missing picks from Demonsky

00:00 | (3) hallso (POL) vs. jmjhb (GBR) - Missing picks from hallso Missing picks from jmjhb
00:00 | joao parana (XXX) vs. (6) starluk (CHN) - Missing picks from starluk
00:00 | (4) Capriati Rules (USA) vs. Chilenaitor (CHI) - Missing picks from Capriati Rules Missing picks from Chilenaitor
00:00 | Dupuis2006 (CAN) vs. (7) tenistasmex (MEX) - Missing picks from tenistasmex

Doubles

00:00 | (1) Chris./Ravel (AUS/CAN) vs. Bye
00:00 | Bye vs. (3) traddles/Chilenaitor (ROU/CHI)
00:00 | (2) Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. Bye
00:00 | tenistasmex/juddy96 (MEX/CAN) vs. (4) starluk/Demonsky (CHN/SVK) - Missing picks from tenistasmex Missing picks from starluk Missing picks from juddy96 Missing picks from Demonsky


Saturday Results


Singles


04:06 | (1) balloon (SIN) vs. Ionut (ROU) #SRs: 4-5
05:04 | Holmzy (IRL) vs. (5) Calgary Flames (CAN) #SRs: 4-3
05:00 | (ALT) guille&tati4life (URU) vs. juddy96 (CAN) #SRs: 5-0
06:00 | Ozone (USA) vs. (8) Demonsky (SVK) #SRs: 4-0

00:00 | (3) hallso (POL) vs. jmjhb (GBR) #SRs: 0-0
04:00 | joao parana (XXX) vs. (6) starluk (CHN) #SRs: 3-0
00:00 | (4) Capriati Rules (USA) vs. Chilenaitor (CHI) #SRs: 0-0
05:00 | Dupuis2006 (CAN) vs. (7) tenistasmex (MEX) #SRs: 4-0

Doubles


00:00 | (1) Chris./Ravel (AUS/CAN) vs. Bye
00:00 | Bye vs. (3) traddles/Chilenaitor (ROU/CHI)
12:00 | (2) Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. Bye
00:00 | tenistasmex/juddy96 (MEX/CAN) vs. (4) starluk/Demonsky (CHN/SVK) - Missing picks from tenistasmex Missing picks from starluk Missing picks from juddy96 Missing picks from Demonsky



CristyRVD/Ionut in doubles are through to Main Draw
 
#116 ·
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I thought about rescheduling this round for tommorow but some ppl which didn't send could send the official OOP(as some did) :wavey:
It would be much easier to do if at least the draw would have been posted... Now some people could have not know that they have to play qualies...

Actually the main things that a manager has to do are to post OOP as early as possible and to post diffs within one hour after the deadline, I hope that you'll pay more attention to that :rolleyes:
 
#112 · (Edited)
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Qualifing Final Round Draw

Singles


00:00 | Ionut (ROU) vs. Holmzy (IRE)
00:00 | (ALT) quille&tati4life (URU) vs. Ozone (USA)
00:00 | balloon (SIN) vs. joao parana (BRA)
00:00 | Calgary Flames (CAN) vs. Dupuis2006 (CAN)


Doubles


00:00 | Chris./Ravel (AUS/CAN) vs. traddles/Chilenaitor (ROU/CHI)
00:00 | Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. BYE/BYE


Send picks to delicfan

Deadline to be confirmed
 
#114 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Will the Main Draw begin tomorrow or on Tuesday?
Main Draw starts tommorow with matches from the main draw in OOP,which start after qualifing matches are over :wavey:
 
#115 ·
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Main Draw

Singles


00:00 | (1) Forever-Delayed (GBR) vs. (Q) Q3 (XXX)
00:00 | (Q) Q2 (XXX) vs. Keech (CAN)
00:00 | (Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. Nev (ARG)
00:00 | Cazorla (UKR) vs. (7) Tomek. (POL)

00:00 | (4) applegirl (ISR) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
00:00 | Mahqz (GER) vs. Cristy RVD (ROU)
00:00 | duducardoso (BRA) vs. Cava (CZE)
00:00 | Eddy DoubleD (ROU) vs. (8) Moretti (USA)

00:00 | (6) ibreak4coffee (CAN) vs. dannyrafter (BRA)
00:00 | MWHF_FTW (USA) vs. chowdahead25 (USA)
00:00 | bavaria100 (GER) vs. Hidalgo (RUS)
00:00 | JMG (MON) vs. (3) bandtree (CAN)

00:00 | (5) petesampras_1 (CHN) vs. Chris. (AUS)
00:00 | njnetswill (USA) vs. traddles (ROU)
00:00 | Ravel (CAN) vs. tennisbabe999 (CAN)
00:00 | Vilnietė (LIT) vs. (2) abollo (EGY)


Doubles


00:00 | (1) njnetswill/hallso (USA/POL) vs. Capriati Rules/Vilnietė (USA/LIT)
00:00 | Calgary Flames/bavaria100 (CAN/GER) vs. Moretti/duducardoso (USA/BRA)
00:00 | (4) Nev/petesampras_1 (ARG/CHN) vs. Tomek./Hidalgo (POL/RUS)
00:00 | ibreak4coffee/bandtree (CAN/CAN) vs. jmjhb/Cazorla (GBR/UKR)

00:00 | (Q) Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. chowdahead25/Ozone (USA/USA)
00:00 | dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA/BRA) vs. (3) Dupuis2006/Forever-Delayed (CAN/GBR)
00:00 | Mahqz/applegirl (GER/ISR) vs. tennisbabe999/Keech (CAN/CAN)
00:00 | (Q) Q1/Q1 (XXX/XXX) vs. (2) Holmzy/abollo (IRL/EGY)
 
#119 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

When both players fail to send picks, doesn't the higher ranked player win? I have never heard of losers advancing in place of players in other parts of the draw. :confused:
 
#121 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Maybe anyone from America will offiicially help delicfan to make OOP for TT rounds. He is Europian. And it is difficult to Europian citizen to make OOP to American tournament at once after OOP is out
yes, I realize this is not the best time zone for Delicfan

I could help today with the OOP, but I'm not sure about which matches to use for PTS1, 2 and 3

Also, the TT Schedule that kingroger posted is rather ambiguous (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=12106934&postcount=6), so I'm confused about what matches ought to count for what in singles and doubles (though this is less an issue than the other)

any suggestions?
 
#124 · (Edited)
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REVISED MONDAY OOP

John-Patrick SMITH (AUS) vs. Fritz WOLMARANS (RSA) PTS1
Carsten BALL (AUS) vs. Luka GREGORC (SLO) SR2
Adrien BOSSEL (SUI) vs. Ante PAVIC (CRO) SR3
Devin BRITTON (USA) vs. Jeff DADAMO (USA) SR4
Ricardas BERANKIS (LTU) vs. Jimmy WANG (TPE) SR5
Laurynas GRIGELIS (LTU) vs. Mikhail LEDOVSKIKH (RUS) SR6


Alex KUZNETSOV (USA) vs. James DUCKWORTH (AUS) PTS1
Danai UDOMCHOKE (THA) vs. Pierre-Ludovic DUCLOS (CAN) PTS2
Rhyne WILLIAMS (USA) vs. Rik DE VOEST (RSA) PTS3
Blake STRODE (USA) vs. Marco CHIUDINELLI (SUI) PTS4
Michael YANI (USA) vs. Dennis NEVOLO (USA) PTS5

Matches in green count for Final round qualifying singles & doubles.

Matches in red count for Round 1 singles and doubles (day 1/2???) Day 2 matches will have priority.

Send all picks to delicfan by 10:00am local time
 
#127 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

REVISED MONDAY OOP

John-Patrick SMITH (AUS) vs. Fritz WOLMARANS (RSA) PTS1
Carsten BALL (AUS) vs. Luka GREGORC (SLO) SR2
Adrien BOSSEL (SUI) vs. Ante PAVIC (CRO) SR3
Devin BRITTON (USA) vs. Jeff DADAMO (USA) SR4
Ricardas BERANKIS (LTU) vs. Jimmy WANG (TPE) SR5
Laurynas GRIGELIS (LTU) vs. Mikhail LEDOVSKIKH (RUS) SR6


Alex KUZNETSOV (USA) vs. James DUCKWORTH (AUS) PTS1
Danai UDOMCHOKE (THA) vs. Pierre-Ludovic DUCLOS (CAN) PTS2
Rhyne WILLIAMS (USA) vs. Rik DE VOEST (RSA) PTS3
Blake STRODE (USA) vs. Marco CHIUDINELLI (SUI) PTS4
Michael YANI (USA) vs. Dennis NEVOLO (USA) PTS5

Matches in green count for Final round qualifying singles & doubles.

Matches in red count for Round 1 singles and doubles (day 1/2???) Day 2 matches will have priority.

Send all picks to delicfan by 10:00am local time
thanks Cava :)
 
#131 ·
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I am not a Board Member, but since I've managed multiple tournaments in the past I wanted to weigh in here as things need to be brought under control and get on the right course. I am also offering to post the OOP for the next few days until a more suitable solution is found, but in the meantime here's how I think we must proceed:

- The qualy issue from yesterday is very unforunate, but at this stage we need to move on. There are legitimate complaints, but not when they are made late on Sunday evening US time. The time for complaints should have been much earlier, and things are more complicated as qualies only started on Sunday.

- The main problem/reason we can't sit and debate issues and moving the schedule back at this stage is that this appears to be a US challenger that finishes with a Saturday final - which is indicated here on the website - http://nielsenprotennis.com/tournament-schedule/. This simply gives us much less margin for error in a TT format, and should have been communicated earlier by the original manager.

- For right now, the OOP posted by Cava needs to stand. Its been posted for hours and more importantly in plenty of time for everyone to send. Normally, in a challenger with a Saturday finish R1 singles is a one day Monday round, but the OOP is vague on this so now I think the best solution is that we'll have to split R1 over two days because we can't realistically change the OOP again. Based on past experience with a Saturday final they have to play the remaining 11 R1 matches on Tuesday, so instead of having 5 matches for R1 and 11 for R2 the manager will need to take 3 matches from the OOP tomorrow (preferably those that start first thing in the morning) and make those the final three matches for R1, and then the remaining 8 matches will be R2 in singles (Monday and Tuesday combined stay R1 for doubles). At that point singles and doubles scheduling have to align: we revert to a one day round for the QF and SF on Wednesday and Thursday respectively for both singles and doubles, and finish with a Friday and Saturday final.

- The TT schedule should therefore look like this:

Code:
SINGLES: 
Sunday ~ TT Q1
Monday ~ TT Final Qualy Round + TT R32
Tuesday ~ TT R32 Final Matches + TT R16
Wednesday ~ TT QF
Thursday ~ TT SF
Friday & Sunday ~ TT Final

DOUBLES: 
Sunday ~ TT Q1
Monday ~ TT Final Qualy Round 
Monday + Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday ~ TT QF
Thursday ~ TT SF
Friday & Sunday ~ TT Final
Again - I am not a board member, but in my opinion this is the optimal way forward. I'm posting this to the managers thread as well to get the Board involved and will let them decide how to determine the winner of the Capriati Rules match and any other stuff - in the meantime, the show must go on.
 
#132 ·
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Another quick note - should the Board decide to go with my format, matches on Tuesday for R1 singles should have priority, so the matches posted by Cava should be SR4 PTS, SR5 PTS, SR6 PTS, SR7 PTS, and SR8 PTS. Doubles the same - priority for Tuesday as usual. If that format goes, everyone should send the full OOP tomorrow as well and all matches for both Monday and Tuesday need to be PTS matches :wavey:
 
#133 ·
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Thanks for the input coffee. I agree...lets not let this get anymore out of control than it needs too :wavey:
 
#136 ·
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after last notes..only red matches for doubles R1 today?
...everyone should send the full OOP tomorrow as well and all matches for both Monday and Tuesday need to be PTS matches :wavey:
as ibreak4coffee says, Hidalgo, everyone should send picks for all 11 matches for Monday and all with PTS

thanks for stepping in ibreak4coffee :yeah:
 
#137 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Guys thanks for stepping in here especialy ibreak4coffee.

I have put Capriati Rules and hallso in final round of qualies.Made a mistake because i 've forgot about rule of better ranked player go through if both players didn't sent :wavey:
 
#138 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #27b - Winnetka - Commit now!

Guys thanks for stepping in here especialy ibreak4coffee.

I have put Capriati Rules and hallso in final round of qualies.Made a mistake because i 've forgot about rule of better ranked player go through if both players didn't sent :wavey:
I agree with what ibreak4coffee said. Please make sure you at least post the OOP link and ask someone to post the oop before you leave.

And in first rounds (MD or qualifying), better ranked players don't advance. The losers with the best score take their spots in the second round.
Round 1 lucky losers (Main draw and qualifying)

When both players/teams in a match fail to send picks AND there are no alternates or lucky losers to replace them, the loser with best score in this round will take their spot in the following round as a lucky loser. This rule is valid only in first rounds (main draw or qualifying).
 
#140 ·
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Monday Differences

Qualyfing Draw



00:00 | Ionut (ROU) vs. Holmzy (IRE) - Missing picks from Ionut
00:00 | (ALT) quille&tati4life (URU) vs. Ozone (USA) - WOLMARANS, PAVIC, BRITTON vs. SMITH, BOSSEL, DADAMO
00:00 | balloon (SIN) vs. joao parana (BRA) - WOLMARANS, PAVIC, LEDOVSKIKH vs. SMITH, BOSSEL, GRIGELIS
00:00 | Calgary Flames (CAN) vs. Dupuis2006 (CAN) - WANG vs. BERANKIS


00:00 | Chris./Ravel (AUS/CAN) vs. traddles/Chilenaitor (ROU/CHI) - Same Winners; SR Differences: WOLMARANS 2-1 v. WOLMARANS 2-0, BALL 2-0 v. BALL 2-1, BERANKIS 2-1 v. BERANKIS
00:00 | Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. Bye


Main Draw


I will put qualifiers in the draw when qualies finish :wavey:
I will accept picks for main draw till 12:00am local time (6pm CEST)


00:00 | (1) Forever-Delayed (GBR) vs. (Q) Q3 (XXX) - Missing picks from Q3
00:00 | (Q) Q2 (XXX) vs. Keech (CAN) - Missing picks from Q2
00:00 | (Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. Nev (ARG) - Missing picks from Q4
00:00 | Cazorla (UKR) vs. (7) Tomek. (POL) - Missing picks from Cazorla Missing picks from Tomek.

00:00 | (4) applegirl (ISR) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX) - Missing picks from Q1
00:00 | Mahqz (GER) vs. Cristy RVD (ROU) - Missing picks from Cristy RVD
00:00 | duducardoso (BRA) vs. Cava (CZE) - DUCKWORTH vs. KUZNETSOV SR Differences: DUCKWORTH 2-1 vs. KUZNETSOV 2-0
00:00 | Eddy DoubleD (ROU) vs. (8) Moretti (USA) - Missing picks from Eddy DoubleD

00:00 | (6) ibreak4coffee (CAN) vs. dannyrafter (BRA) - Missing picks from dannyrafter
00:00 | MWHF_FTW (USA) vs. chowdahead25 (USA) - DUCKWORTH, DUCLOS vs. KUZNETSOV, UDOMCHOKE SR Differences: DUCKWORTH 2-0 vs. KUZNETSOV 2-1, DUCLOS 2-1 vs. UDOMCHOKE 2-0
00:00 | bavaria100 (GER) vs. Hidalgo (RUS) - DUCKWORTH vs. KUZNETSOV SR Differences: DUCKWORTH 2-1 vs. KUZNETSOV 2-1
00:00 | JMG (MON) vs. (3) bandtree (CAN) - UDOMCHOKE vs. DUCLOS SR Differences: UDOMCHOKE 2-1 vs. DUCLOS 2-0, DE VOEST 2-1 v 2-0

00:00 | (5) petesampras_1 (CHN) vs. Chris. (AUS) - UDOMCHOKE, WILLIAMS vs. DUCLOS, DE VOEST SR Differences: KUZNETSOV 2-0 v 2-1, UDOMCHOKE 2-1 vs. DUCLOS 2-0, WILLIAMS 2-0 vs. DE VOEST 2-1
00:00 | njnetswill (USA) vs. traddles (ROU) - Same winners; SR Differences: KUZNETSOV 2-1 v 2-0
00:00 | Ravel (CAN) vs. Anin (CAN) - DUCLOS vs. UDOMCHOKE SR Differences: KUZNETSOV 2-1 v 2-0, DUCLOS 2-0 vs. UDOMCHOKE 2-0, DE VOEST 2-1 v 2-0, CHIUDINELLI 2-0 v 2-1
00:00 | Vilnietė (LIT) vs. (2) abollo (EGY) - Missing picks from abollo



00:00 | (1) njnetswill/hallso (USA/POL) vs. Capriati Rules/Vilnietė (USA/LIT) - DUCLOS vs. UDOMCHOKE
00:00 | Calgary Flames/bavaria100 (CAN/GER) vs. Moretti/duducardoso (USA/BRA) - WILLIAMS +2 vs. DE VOEST +2 SR Differences: WILLIAMS 2-1 +2 v. DE VOEST 2-0 +2
00:00 | (4) Nev/petesampras_1 (ARG/CHN) vs. Tomek./Hidalgo (POL/RUS) - Missing picks from Nev Missing picks from Tomek. Missing picks from Hidalgo
00:00 | ibreak4coffee/bandtree (CAN/CAN) vs. jmjhb/Cazorla (GBR/UKR) - Missing picks from jmjhb Missing picks from Cazorla

00:00 | (Q) Cristy RVD/Ionut (ROU/ROU) vs. chowdahead25/Ozone (USA/USA) - Missing picks from Cristy RVD Missing picks from Ionut
00:00 | dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA/BRA) vs. (3) Dupuis2006/Forever-Delayed (CAN/GBR) - Missing picks from dannyrafter Missing picks from Ricardo Soler
00:00 | Mahqz/applegirl (GER/ISR) vs. Anin/Keech (CAN/CAN) - KUZNETSOV, DUCLOS, WILLIAMS vs. DUCKWORTH, UDOMCHOKE, DE VOEST
00:00 | (Q) Q1/Q1 (XXX/XXX) vs. (2) Holmzy/abollo (IRL/EGY) - Missing picks from Q1 Missing picks from Q1 Missing picks from abollo

If you think there's a mistake please let me know :wavey:

I have to go out for 2-3 hours so when i get back i will put qualifiers in :wavey:
 
#141 ·
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00:00 | (4) Nev/petesampras_1 (ARG/CHN) vs. Tomek./Hidalgo (POL/RUS) - Missing picks from Nev Missing picks from Tomek. Missing picks from Hidalgo

:D I sent in singles, so i sent in doubles too. one opponent did not send so we... hm.. i have some chances in doubles.
pls diffs in this doubles match
 
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