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Yes, I'm a Theist (Believe in holy revelation via a "Holy Book") 57 19.52%
Yes, I'm a Deist (Believe in God based upon the existence of the Universe and evolved life) 40 13.70%
Perhaps, I'm Agnostic (As there is conflicting, or a lack of, evidence you just don't know) 73 25.00%
No, I'm an Atheist (science will eventually understand the origins of the Big Bang/Universe) 122 41.78%
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:21 PM   #586
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doesn't make them right though...
No one said that it did. I don't subscribe to arguments from authority either.
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sure it does general
how?
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Religion is nothing but a system for manipulation, control and greed. I always said i was agnostic to the belief in god but really, i researched what the word god really means...and in fact the god story is simply a myth.

What could exist is a deity not the so called "god".
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how?
well we know religions are completely false old sport. well except federism
But we can't disprove a deity somewhere in the universe, multiverse or outside of it(if there's even such a thing).


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Religion is nothing but a system for manipulation, control and greed. I always said i was agnostic to the belief in god but really, i researched what the word god really means...and in fact the god story is simply a myth.

What could exist is a deity not the so called "god".
this thread is full of arguments that you can check for detailed answers, I said from the start that there is no right or wrong in this, it's all a matter of faith and opinion, so no smart people aren't right as you say >__>

as for religion, the flaw isn't necessarily from religion but because it's applied by humans and humans are flawed.
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this thread is full of arguments that you can check for detailed answers, I said from the start that there is no right or wrong in this, it's all a matter of faith and opinion, so no smart people aren't right as you say >__>

as for religion, the flaw isn't necessarily from religion but because it's applied by humans and humans are flawed.
false, you need to know the intention of religion and what it really is. Research the history and evolution of religions and who are behind it.

humans are flawed but of course, that is exactly why they force us with an impossible system to make us feel guilty and give our money and loyalty to them

There a few logical steps to know the truth Commander. What i ment is that agnosticism makes more sense than being religious.
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false, you need to know the intention of religion and what it really is. Research the history and evolution of religions and who are behind it.

humans are flawed but of course, that is exactly why they force us with an impossible system to make us feel guilty and give our money and loyalty to them

There a few logical steps to know the truth Commander.
I suppose you are having "church" in mind when you talk about religion, that's not what I think about when I talk about it.

I'm highly critical of certain forms of systematic religion (for example, Wahhabism in my country), but I don't like to put all the blame on religion as something evil by nature like many do.
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What i ment is that agnosticism makes more sense than being religious.
of course, saying "I don't know for sure" is the only logical thing when it comes to faith and religions.
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I suppose you are having "Church" in mind when you talk about religion, that's not what I think about when I talk about it.

I'm highly critical of certain forms of systematic religion (for example, Wahabism in my country), but I don't like to put all the blame on religion as something evil by nature like many do.
But they have shaped religion into something that certainly is evil even tho the early origins of religion came from spiritualism. Religion by default come with leaders who most often than not have hidden agendas. For thousands of years it's been used for manipulation. The high priests are just puppets of the government.

And yes the reason why i have a religion in mind is because of the meaning of the word GOD. The word God is a specific Greek/Egyptian deity and not what we thought it was.
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But they have shaped religion into something that certainly is evil even tho the early origins of religion came from spiritualism. Religion by default come with leaders who most often than not have hidden agendas. For thousands of years it's been used for manipulation. The high priests are just puppets of the government.

And yes the reason why i have a religion in mind is because of the meaning of the word GOD. The word God is a specific Greek/Egyptian deity and not what we thought it was.
there are so many religions in the world and throughout history: Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Jainism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and primal religions of ancient tribes, just to mention a few.

do you believe all of them are evil by nature with evil leaders behind them?
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there are so many religions in the world and throughout history: Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taosim, Jainism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and primal religions of ancient tribes, just to mention a few.

do you believe all of them are evil by nature?
Exactly...there is a lot plagiarism as well. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE EVIL and some are different in nature. The more controlled they are the more dangerous it is to be a follower.

But back to the point the word GOD replaced "deity". A forced monotheism!

Most religions use the word God nowdays but again GOD is not what you think it is
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Exactly...there is a lot plagiarism as well.

But back to the point the word GOD replaced "deity". A forced monotheism!

Most religions use the word God nowdays but again GOD is not what you think it is
monotheistic religions use the term God to refer to the creator, other religions have a God along with lesser gods, or differnet countless dieties etc, I'm not sure what's the point you are trying to make
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monotheistic religions use the term God to refer to the creator, other religions have a God along with lesser gods, or differnet countless dieties etc, I'm not sure what's the point you are trying to make
I'm not sure HE knows what point he's making.

Another case of confusing God, religion and church.
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monotheistic religions use the term God to refer to the creator, other religions have a God along with lesser gods, or differnet countless dieties etc, I'm not sure what's the point you are trying to make
sorry it's hard to explain but if you search for the definition, history and etymology of the word "god" you will understand what i'm trying to say.
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