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View Poll Results: Do You Believe In A "God"?

Yes, I'm a Theist (Believe in holy revelation via a "Holy Book") 57 19.52%
Yes, I'm a Deist (Believe in God based upon the existence of the Universe and evolved life) 40 13.70%
Perhaps, I'm Agnostic (As there is conflicting, or a lack of, evidence you just don't know) 73 25.00%
No, I'm an Atheist (science will eventually understand the origins of the Big Bang/Universe) 122 41.78%
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:46 PM   #556
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Clydey, let me tell you something. Your believe in a purely material universe is in reality a subconscious and irrational rebellion against your religious upbringing.



It's time to get real.
No, it's not. I have nothing to be bitter about. My upbringing wasn't like that. It was a casual religious upbringing.

I rejected it because it makes no sense and that's the simple truth. You're not talking to someone who's had a strict religious upbringing and is now rebelling against the church. The notion of a deity goes against all logic and reason. I don't subscribe to anything that's irrational or lacking in evidence.

Thanks for the couch session, though, Freud.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:52 PM   #557
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Descartes' rationalism led him to the evidence of God's existence and veracity.

But Descartes' God is crap anyway.
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Descartes' rationalism led him to the evidence of God's existence and veracity.

But Descartes' God is crap anyway.
Descartes lived in the 17th century. David Hume is one of the greatest thinkers the world has ever known, yet he was a racist. They were men of their respective times. Atheism wasn't intellectually viable in Descartes' time.

Have you read his "proof" for God? It's pretty comical.

Hume > Descartes.
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Descartes lived in the 17th century. David Hume is one of the greatest thinkers the world has ever known, yet he was a racist. They were men of their respective times. Atheism wasn't intellectually viable in Descartes' time.

Have you read his "proof" for God? It's pretty comical.

Hume > Descartes.
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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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That's the cutest non sequitur ever.
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Funny thread.

Descartes, Copernicus, Keppler, Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Bohr, & Dawkins are my heros.
So far for my take on this particular subject.
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No, it's not. I have nothing to be bitter about. My upbringing wasn't like that. It was a casual religious upbringing.

I rejected it because it makes no sense and that's the simple truth. You're not talking to someone who's had a strict religious upbringing and is now rebelling against the church. The notion of a deity goes against all logic and reason. I don't subscribe to anything that's irrational or lacking in evidence.

Thanks for the couch session, though, Freud.
No problem. I was channelling Dr. Phil though.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:26 AM   #565
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Habib is a smart guy. I'd estimate his IQ at at least 130.
you hit the nail on the head actually I'd say your IQ is at least 140 since you are able to guess people's IQ only from their posts
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:02 PM   #566
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I've studied Descartes at university and his proof of God in particular. However I'm afraid I know nothing about Hume, except his name.

Descartes' proof of God is not as ridiculous as it looks at first sight. He was analyzing his "cogito" in the search for its second pillar. In his analysis he found the notions/concept of infinity and perfection. And it's true we have this in our mind. These notions of infinity and perfection are what Descartes calls God. But it's just God based on human intellect, certainly not the same as Christians' God, for example.

At least it's the way I see it. All I say is open to criticism.
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I say habibko and Arend are right now cuddled together.
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you hit the nail on the head actually I'd say your IQ is at least 140 since you are able to guess people's IQ only from their posts
How your IQ calculation is done:

Average IQ 100
+40 for not supporting Nadal.
-20 for watching anime.
-30 for being a Yani fan.
-40 for supporting Federer.
+50 for not being an American.
+50 for starting a thread titled "WTF is your problem mods?"
-20 for posting in The Castle.


The result is accurate with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 points.
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I say habibko and Arend are right now cuddled together.
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Jealous?
I'm genuinely curious about your owl obsession. What is the root of your interest in those furry creatures?
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