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Old 06-17-2009, 09:39 AM   #16
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Lets start 128 WWW threads for Wimbledon.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Yup, the "OOP & Scores" threads in the tournament forums used to get at least 500 posts per day (usually much more) but they were killed by the mods introducing new rules.
Read Shotgun's answer and you will get why the rules were introduced. You don't always know what is going to be the response to certain changes.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I'm in favour of discussing live matches in GM too.
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Lets start 128 WWW threads for Wimbledon.
What are you talking about? The WWW threads already exist. There won't be any more than there usually are. It's not like we're creating new threads. They are already on GM anyway.
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What are you talking about? The WWW threads already exist. There won't be any more than there usually are. It's not like we're creating new threads. They are already on GM anyway.
Actually create 64 WWW threads for the 1st round of Wimbledon, then you might be on to it.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Actually create 64 WWW threads for the 1st round of Wimbledon, then you might be on to it.
You know as well as I do that wouldn't happen. People create WWW threads for matches they are interested in. Like I said, the WWW threads already exist. We're not adding any new threads.
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You know as well as I do that wouldn't happen. People create WWW threads for matches they are interested in. Like I said, the WWW threads already exist. We're not adding any new threads.
First day of a Slam, the whole first page will be WWW threads. So lets say this if I came into your house, would you like me to tell you how to run things and set things up.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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First day of a Slam, the whole first page will be WWW threads. So lets say this if I came into your house, would you like me to tell you how to run things and set things up.
No, it wouldn't. Why would there be any more threads than usual? If people were actively interested in every match in the draw, why don't we get like 30 WWW threads per round already? And even if we did, only a handful would even be active, since only a select few matches are actually televised.

I've moderated on forums before, so it's not like I have no experience with this. Other forums deal with live match discussion very easily. Look at TW, for example. The most active live discussion threads you'll find at any one time is around 4. Why? Well, people are only interested in certain matches. Only certain matches are televised. There are only so many matches going on at one time. We're not talking 30-60 matches being played at once, even if it was remotely possible that there would be that many threads in GM.
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No, it wouldn't. Why would there be any more threads than usual? If people were actively interested in every match in the draw, why don't we get like 30 WWW threads per round already? And even if we did, only a handful would even be active, since only a select few matches are actually televised.
More matches are on offer, therefore there are going to be more threads, that isn't hard to work out.

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I've moderated on forums before, so it's not like I have no experience with this. Other forums deal with live match discussion very easily. Look at TW, for example. The most active live discussion threads you'll find at any one time is around 4. Why? Well, people are only interested in certain matches. Only certain matches are televised. There are only so many matches going on at one time. We're not talking 30-60 matches being played at once, even if it was remotely possble that there would be that many threads in GM.
The server is fucking cheap and not going to get any better. So why is it impossible for you to use the respective tournament forum? There have to be some valid reasons for it. There are a lot more than 4 mens matches going on at a Slam at the same time barring rain in the first 2 rounds.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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More matches are on offer, therefore there are going to be more threads, that isn't hard to work out.
Yes, but there are not going to be any more WWW threads there are for any other slam. People only create WWW threads for matches that interest them. They aren't going to create 64 WWW threads just for the hell of it. And how many people do you think are going to be discussing matches based on live scores? They'll be discussing the handful of matches that are televised.

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The server is fucking cheap and not going to get any better. So why is it impossible for you to use the respective tournament forum? There have to be some valid reasons for it. There are a lot more than 4 mens matches going on at a Slam at the same time barring rain in the first 2 rounds.
It's not impossible. It's just a dumb idea used to reduce traffic. No one uses those threads. The forum should be looking to be as popular as possible. Like I said, the WWW threads already exist. All you would be doing is extending their use to live match discussion. Every other forum seems to handle it. And if this server is so shit, what on earth are they doing charging members for certain privileges?

If you think I'm wrong, do a trial run over the first week of Wimbledon. If we end up with 64 WWW threads, I'll be fucking blown away and I'll concede that I was wrong. Put your theory to the test. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. You can just put live match discussion in the tournament forum.
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If there was Livescore Sticky Thread for the first week of Wimbledon as a trial, then reviewed after that.

Yes, that means all matches are spoken about in the one place as per se in the Gambling Lounge and not in the WWW threads once the match has started.

Not even sure that this will be tried, but once there is any news, then it will be announced.
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If there was Livescore Sticky Thread for the first week of Wimbledon as a trial, then reviewed after that.

Yes, that means all matches are spoken about in the one place as per se in the Gambling Lounge and not in the WWW threads once the match has started.

Not even sure that this will be tried, but once there is any news, then it will be announced.
I suppose that would be a compromise. There should at least be something in GM. That's simply where everyone congregates. No point in tucking the live discussion away in a forum hardly anyone visits.
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Yes, but there are not going to be any more WWW threads there are for any other slam. People only create WWW threads for matches that interest them. They aren't going to create 64 WWW threads just for the hell of it. And how many people do you think are going to be discussing matches based on live scores? They'll be discussing the handful of matches that are televised.
It depends on the fans, there are matches people are interested in that aren't televised and not solely for betting reasons . Or is it just because fans of the top 4 only count?

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It's not impossible. It's just a dumb idea used to reduce traffic. No one uses those threads. The forum should be looking to be as popular as possible. Like I said, the WWW threads already exist. All you would be doing is extending their use to live match discussion. Every other forum seems to handle it. And if this server is so shit, what on earth are they doing charging members for certain privileges?
Do you know why this is the case? There were people who didn't have gambling interests and wanted to follow the matches, then the posting of fake scores, jinxing and the colourful language, created the Gamblers Lounge, which works very well.

Now the ones who were there, follow in their own fan forums or whatever reasons don't bother with it, but the tournament forums are there and it goes back to what I said earlier, you wouldn't expect me to piss on your carpet, when there is a functional toilet in the next room would you.

I am not in charge of any decision that gets taken on this matter. As for the servers I didn't purchase them either, but that's another issue.

As for what I posted about one sticky thread being it a compromise, it's actually commonsense. Whose fault is it that they are too lazy to talk about respective matches in tournament forums.
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It depends on the fans, there are matches people are interested in that aren't televised and not solely for betting reasons . Or is it just because fans of the top 4 only count?
Nice job twisting my words. That certainly wasn't what I said.

I said that most people are only interested in a select few matches. You only get so many WWW threads per round. You don't get a WWW thread for every match in the draw. Allowing live discussion won't randomly increase the number of WWW threads.

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Do you know why this is the case? There were people who didn't have gambling interests and wanted to follow the matches, then the posting of fake scores, jinxing and the colourful language, created the Gamblers Lounge, which works very well.

Now the ones who were there, follow in their own fan forums or whatever reasons don't bother with it, but the tournament forums are there and it goes back to what I said earlier, you wouldn't expect me to piss on your carpet, when there is a functional toilet in the next room would you.

I am not in charge of any decision that gets taken on this matter. As for the servers I didn't purchase them either, but that's another issue.

As for what I posted about one sticky thread being it a compromise, it's actually commonsense. Whose fault is it that they are too lazy to talk about respective matches in tournament forums.
I don't think it's common sense. I think it's common sense to use the threads that already exist. It's a good compromise, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that it's a better idea. It's better for the moderators, since it's easier to moderate. It's not necessarily better for the posters, who perhaps want to discuss a specific match. But hey, I'm not a moderator around here. I just think this could improve the forum. I think it would be a great thing for GM.

As for people fucking around with fake scores, well that's what infractions and bans are for.
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Nice job twisting my words. That certainly wasn't what I said.

I said that most people are only interested in a select few matches. You only get so many WWW threads per round. You don't get a WWW thread for every match in the draw. Allowing live discussion won't randomly increase the number of WWW threads.
We can keep going round and round in circles. That is pretty much what it comes down to. Murray, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic have the big fan bases therefore if they are in any sort of trouble in their matches or doing something different tactically, then some thread will be started, when it can be discussed in the general area of the Livescores thread and doesn't need a separate thread.

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I don't think it's common sense. I think it's common sense to use the threads that already exist. It's a good compromise, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that it's a better idea. It's better for the moderators, since it's easier to moderate. It's not necessarily better for the posters, who perhaps want to discuss a specific match. But hey, I'm not a moderator around here. I just think this could improve the forum. I think it would be a great thing for GM.
It's commonsense, because there are rules that have to be observed, if clowns want to curse, bitch and jinx players, then do it in the Gamblers Lounge and not on GM, but that will be lost on some people.

Sounds like you want special and specific treatment for some reason. I am sorry 4 matches what for, when there are plenty of others going on at the same time at a Slam, so they should deserve threads as well. They don't deserve special status, it's not that hard to talk about matches in OOP or Livescores thread, once the one you want is over, either watch the next or go do something else.

You want convenience for yourself, but wanting to have a go at the mods at the same time.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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