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Old 02-01-2009, 10:36 PM   #91
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Again, people. You're missing the point. This is all about bending over without the necessary precautions.

Next time Fed will take some KY and he won't cry.
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:36 PM   #92
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i think the reason Roger was crying was more because he was touched at the amount of support the fans gave him in spite of his loss...he wasn't crying because he was a sore loser . he cried during the trophy ceremony in 2006 too and he won that time. anyway, i think it's fine.
yes finally someone explained it, can we close this thread
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WTA-loving mug.


Whatever... It's Federer who behaves like a pansy.
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Again, people. You're missing the point. This is all about bending over without the necessary precautions.

Next time Fed will take some KY and he won't cry.
i can bet roger cried today more than you since you were born.
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Why can fans never just be satisfied with a victory for their favourite player and instead have to bitch about this and that the whole time?
That Rafa won the title is all that counts. To forbid Roger his tears is beyond words. Tears are emotions and natural.
Ditto. I can not believe that STILL some guys criticize others for crying, very cruel! and archaic...
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:41 PM   #96
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To answer the original question 'Were his tears justified?' I will say that any emotion apparent or hidden is justified to the owner and the observer. Emotions are afterall what make us human. (Which, I might add seems to be lacking in some posters).

Roger probably knew that he had balls it up, and was angry with himself for all the missed opportunities. Also everyone seems to be still treating him like the favourite to win, so it is a renewed shock to him when he doesn't . Anger and shock always make me cry rather than pain, and cry uncontrollably which can be embarrassing but totally unstoppable. (I'm female but still)

Rafa wouldn't have cried but Roger did, everyone is different and react in different ways, its in poor taste to judge someone for crying. In a way it's refreshing for a man to be so open with his feelings but in others it makes people feel uncomfortable.

If bitching about him makes people feel better it reflects worse on them than crying does on Rogi
Totally agreed. Rafa has cried many times after winning. I remember his first French Open win... NO BIG DEAL!!!
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Totally agreed. Rafa has cried many times after winning. I remember his first French Open win... NO BIG DEAL!!!
I think you are missing the point. Few people are criticising Roger for crying. What criticism there is, is about whether the crying was occuring at an appropiate time. I don't think anyone could seriously have any problems with a player, be it Federer, Nadal or someone else, crying after a huge win. The circumstances here however were quite different and I would certainly regard a debate as being quite reasonable.
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i can bet roger cried today more than you since you were born.
Definitely. Not many people close to me died yet for me to cry so much.
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i can bet roger cried today more than you since you were born.
hahaha that's so true but it's never too late to recatch the lost time.
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I think you are missing the point. Few people are criticising Roger for crying. What criticism there is, is about whether the crying was occuring at an appropiate time.

Err...you cannot always control at what time and at what place you start to cry....

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I'm far from being a Federer-fan (I sometimes find his interviews arrogant and his gamestyle doesn't appeal to me) but for me, seeing him cry when he just was denied a Slam record and after he lost anothe Slam final to his main rival was really no big deal...if anything it made him look human and sensitive and that is not a bad thing!

So the answer is a BIG FAT YES.
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I'm shocked and disgusted at some of you! Seriously, do you think he wanted to ball his guts out there? He was fighting them while sitting in the chair and you just knew at some point, there was going to be an eruption. He had absolutely no control over it.

It's baffling, here we have a phenomenal tennis rivalry between two fantastic players, one is probably the greatest of all time with the other being the greatest clay courter and moving his way towards greatest player, yet so many of you have major hate on one or the other. Why can't you just appreciate the tennis? They obviously have great respect for one another and for the game, too bad the same can't be said about some people on this board.
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roger needs to get his long hair back, and get a trophywife
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What criticism there is, is about whether the crying was occuring at an appropiate time.
ok.
Here is my issue-

Would you agree crying/sadness/upset is an emotion?

How often does emotion surface at the most appropriate times?
I mean that is laughable, its human nature.

When he stepped back his whole jaw was quivering...(i have been that upset) & it is usually a bit of a hysterical reaction and it makes it that much harder to control. When you start having involuntary movements it is hardly your choice.


So Sorry the is no conditioning or strength training to be done in this area.
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Losing the Wimbledon final, the #1 ranking and now this match, you can tell the guy is just losing it by his recent behaviour, not only talking about the crying on the court today but also the constant "goes" he's having at other players. Then again it's understandable considering he dominated the tour for four years, he's just not used to coping with defeat.
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Roger practically demanded that he be treated as the favorite. He was very testy about that favorite status. So, if that caused shock, he brought it on himself.
You're right, I forgot that, but he added Rafa and the odious Djokovic to his favourites didn't he? I cannae remember. Kinda gets to me though that no one else, tournament organizers, press etc are treating Rafa as the No.1. He still seems to be in 2nd place. Not good. Even Rogi admits that Rafa is numero uno.


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are quite right about this. Rafa wouldn't have cried at the victory ceremony if he had lost, because he has excellent manners. It's not about emotions; it's about behaving well in moments of great personal stress. Sure, he felt bad and he made the ceremony all about HIS emotions, His "open feelings" His sadness. I'm sure he didn't plan it, but when others have shown themselves to be gracious losers when he was in his ascendence, it would behoove him to do the same.
Having grown up in Britain, I am used to stiff upper lip and all, don't get me wrong. I just think, it wasn't planned it was spontaneous and you cannae berate him for that.

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not bitching about him crying -- I'm simply talking about what it reveals about his character. And feeling badly, that in his last three slam victories, Rafa was so worried about Federer feeling bad that he couldn't really be joyous for his own accomplishments.
I do agree that at RG the ceremony was subdued, as with Wimbledon. And that is awful, Rafa is a worthy winner, and he is so cute and humble. But I think at RG they couldn't believe what had happened, and at Wimby, centre court was kinda sad for the end of an era. Roger's dominance has been so extreme that Rafa's continuing disposal of him makes people do a double take. I don't think these instances were provoked by Federer though. At RG he made a joke, same with Wimby (something about the kitchen sink if I recall).

p.s I wasn't directing the bitchy comment at you personally
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