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Old 03-05-2008, 05:30 PM   #1
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ATP Champions Race to Shanghai 2008.

Last update: Tennis Masters Cup, Shanghai


Code:
01 (01)  Rafael Nadal (ESP)          1335  (15)                
02 (02)  Roger Federer (SUI)         1041  (--)  
03 (03)  Novak Djokovic (SRB)         929  (03)     
04 (04)  Andy Murray (GBR)            684  (15)*  
05 (05)  Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)      463  (22)       
06 (06)  Andy Roddick (USA)           394  (22)        
07 (12)  Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)     390  (05)
08 (07)  Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)  369  (08)*  

09 (08)  Gilles Simon (FRA)           356  (20)   
10 (10)  James Blake (USA)            355  (15)   

11 (14)  David Nalbandian (ARG)       345  (20)   
12 (09)  David Ferrer (ESP)           339  (15) 
13 (11)  Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)     302  (03)     
14 (13)  Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)      284  (12)     
15 (15)  Fernando Verdasco (ESP)      283  (15) 
16 (16)  Gael Monfils (FRA)           279  (--)  
17 (17)  Robin Soderling (SWE)        265  (11)
18 (18)  Nicolas Almagro (ESP)        254  (08)     
19 (19)  Igor Andreev (RUS)           249  (10)        
20 (23)  Tomas Berdych (CZE)          243  (08)  

21 (21)  Tommy Robredo (ESP)          239  (08)
22 (25)  Marin Cilic (CRO)            235  (08)   
23 (20)  Richard Gasquet (FRA)        232  (08)      
24 (22)  Mardy Fish (USA)             228  (08)            (161:148 over Karlovic - total of all 2008 "mandatories" to date)    
25 (24)  Ivo Karlovic (CRO)           228  (03)   
26 (26)  Radek Stepanek (CZE)         226  (05)   
27 (27)  Dmitry Tursunov (RUS)        223  (05)            (112:111 over Kohlschreiber - total of all 2008 "mandatories" to date)   
28 (28)  Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)  223  (05)           
29 (29)  Marat Safin (RUS)            205  (03)   
30 (32)  Feliciano Lopez (ESP)        201  (--)   

31 (30)  Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)     200  (12)   
32 (31)  Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)        197  (05)
33 (33)  Rainer Schuettler (GER)      181  (03)   
34 (35)  Mario Ancic (CRO)            180  (04)   
35 (37)  Nicolas Kiefer (GER)         177  (03) 
36 (34)  Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)        176  (05)            
37 (40)  Sam Querrey (USA)            174  (03)  
38 (36)  Michael Llodra (FRA)         172  (05)  
39 (39)  Jurgen Melzer (AUT)          171  (03)   
40 (38)  Andreas Seppi (ITA)          169  (05)      
 
* 0 pointer included as one of optionals.
Key.

Qualified for Shanghai.
(xx) - "best 5th" countable result

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Old 03-05-2008, 05:30 PM   #2
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Code:
Paris

Q : 03
R1: 01
R2: 07*
R3: 15
QF: 25
SF: 45
F : 70
W : 100

*Players with byes who lose in R2 receive R1 points.

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Old 03-05-2008, 05:30 PM   #3
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Feature.


Obviously we're aware of the some of the national Race battles near the top of the standings, but there are a couple of interesting battles going on a little further down:


Croatia.

Provided he remains healthy, Ancic looks likely to take a strong lead over the rest of his countrymen, by the end of the season, but the other 3 front-runners could spend much of the season jostling positions:

Code:
01 (#24)  Ivo Karlovic (CRO)        228  (03)
02 (#25)  Marin Cilic (CRO)         227  (08)   PAR R2   
03 (#34)  Mario Ancic (CRO)         180  (04)   PAR R2
04 (#53)  Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)       130  (03)   PAR R1

Italy.

This battle is more interesting, as, with certainly Starace and Volandri likely to play a handful of challengers, this season, a player who finishes Italian #1 in the ENTRY list might not top the RACE standings:

Code:
01 (#40)  Andreas Seppi (ITA)      169  (05)            
02 (#42)  Simone Bolelli (ITA)     162  (03)   PAR R2     
03 (#71)  Potito Starace (ITA)      84  (03)    
04 (#75)  Fabio Fognini (ITA)       71  (--) 
05 (#95)  Filippo Volandri (ITA)    50  (--)
Bolelli (competent on all surfaces) appears to have a strong shot at Italian Race #1, although Starace, and Seppi (also competent on all surfaces) would be expected to fight him all the way. Volandri's challenge is likely to fizzle out once the clay tournaments are out of the way, while Fognini's challenge looks to be seriously dented (seemingly only a mild threat on clay) with a shoulder injury sidelining him until at least the French Open.


USA.

Most eyes will be focused on two battles in the American list...the battle for American #1 (between Roddick and Blake), and the battle for American #3 (largely between Fish and Querrey), which takes on significance for matters such as naming a Davis Cup singles reserve. But, worryingly, while there are a number of Americans in the top 100, few of them are making any significant progress.

Code:
01 (#06)  Andy Roddick (USA)           369  (22)   PAR R2
02 (#10)  James Blake (USA)            310  (15)   PAR R2
03 (#23)  Mardy Fish (USA)             228  (08) 
04 (#37)  Sam Querrey (USA)            174  (03)   PAR R2
05 (#46)  Robby Ginepri (USA)          147  (--)   
06 (#79)  Wayne Odesnik (USA)           68  (--)
07 (#80)  Vincent Spadea (USA)          67  (--)   
08 (#81)  Bobby Reynolds (USA)          67  (--)   
09 (#93)  Jesse Levine (USA)            53  (--)   
10 (#99)  John Isner (USA)              45  (--)

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Old 03-05-2008, 07:00 PM   #4
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Thanks for the effort, at the moment the race is only a metric about short-term form, after the US Open it is very informative about year-end rankings.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:03 PM   #5
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yeah its to early for all of this, wait abit.
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Thanks for taking the time to do this Gilles
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:37 PM   #7
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Anyone care to predict the 8 players who will contest the masters.. or should we get a different thread for that?
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:18 AM   #8
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Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Davydenko
Nalbandian
Andy Murray
Andy Roddick
Ferrer
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:17 AM   #9
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Anyone care to predict the 8 players who will contest the masters.. or should we get a different thread for that?
No no, it's relevant to the thread in hand, so feel free to post your predictions in here.


To those saying it is too early...read my first post, and come back in 6 months time.
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can't stand seeing federer behind Almugro :S
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can't stand seeing federer behind Almugro :S
Won't be for too long.

Lopez now up to provisional #46...not bad for someone with just 2 countable results.

Nole is opening up quite a gap now...
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My 08 Shanghai picks

(no specific order)

Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Roddick
Murray
Tsonga


I'd be shocked if none of them made it - Plenty of contenders for the remaining 2 spots (as usual) .... I'll go out on a limb and say Nalbandian and Gonzalez (I was close to saying Baghdatis... obviously plenty of people will be confused by the omissions of Berdych, Davydenko and others but what the hell)....... Hewitt into the top 10...).

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No specific order:
Djocomic
Tsonga
Federer
Nadal
Davydenko
I can bet 1000 $ with anyone they will qualify
.....
Then 3 of this players in this order of probability
+ Nalbandian
Roddick
Murray
...
Ferrer
Gasquet
Youzhny
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Federer
Djokovic
Roddick
Nalbandian
Nadal
Davydenko
Murray
Ginepri!!!
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