[Baghdatis72]

Usually there is a small line in the terms which allows the vendor to change the service at any time without any warning and this could be the case here.

[adee-gee]

Fair enough, it's still morally totally incorrect

[Baghdatis72]

Originally Posted by The Hoff

Fair enough, it's still morally totally incorrect

I know

[Deboogle!.]

Originally Posted by The Hoff

I know the feeling

I'm not a lawyer, but surely advertising the premium membership and saying you get several benefits, then withdrawing them after members have paid can't be strictly legal.

Originally Posted by Baghdatis72

Usually there is a small line in the terms which allows the vendor to change the service at any time without any warning and this could be the case here.

Yes, plus, if you go to the premium page, it doesn't actually advertise any of the stuff we're complaining about.....

as you said, that doesn't make it "right" - it just makes it legal. I would hope that the admins would care about pissing off so many regular posters. I think it's also a good idea not to confuse the first premium with this one - that one was more expensive and more things were promised. but still.

[Tytta!.]

Lawyer Deb

[Baghdatis72]

So this means that unless there is someone who cares about the customers of this website then we will see no change.

[Tytta!.]

yes

[Baghdatis72]

The themes get reduced to 2, more ads come in above and below and now there are ads in the threads between posts. Maybe in a few months there will be ads in our own posts like some other forums I have come across.

[Tytta!.]

but we won't stop complaining

[Deboogle!.]

Originally Posted by Baghdatis72

So this means that unless there is someone who cares about the customers of this website then we will see no change.

yeah, pretty much. But generally, it's not good business practice to alienate the people who are actually willing to pay... we'll see.

[El Legenda]

Originally Posted by Deboogle!.

Yes, plus, if you go to the premium page, it doesn't actually advertise any of the stuff we're complaining about.....
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because they took it of the list. when people signed up everything we are complaining about was on the list and people payed based on that. if i didnt have better things to do and if my membership didnt expire last year but somehow i still have it, i would sue

[GlennMirnyi]

Originally Posted by Tytta!.

Ok, right. I know how expensive it must be to run this site. But it has so many people visiting, why not make, for example, guests sign up to be able to read the threads/forums? Lots of traffic would be saved for those who actually have a membership, paid or not. Anyway, the point is: all we premium members are asking is a little respect and attention for the money we got to HELP you paying for servers/CPUs/RAM/etc. You don't need to take off all ads fur us, but at least 90% of them. Otherwise I don't think people will want to get a premium membership. I mean, what's good about it? A bigger avatar, a picture in a signature. Who cares about this when you can barely keep up with the forum with these ads?

Great post Rê.

[Deboogle!.]

Originally Posted by Jerry Seinfeld

because they took it of the list. when people signed up everything we are complaining about was on the list and people payed based on that. if i didnt have better things to do and if my membership didnt expire last year but somehow i still have it, i would sue

Oh, really? Were these things on the list before? I didn't know that. Does anyone remember what was there when they paid? I mean, in a sense it doesn't matter I think we all agree that it's crappy either way, even if those things were never explicitly promised, everyone knew they existed and paid because of it. I bet if we took a poll, no one paid for the bigger av or custom headline or more PM space. And either way, one would hope they care enough about those who have actually bothered to pay. I mean, they very clearly stated it would not be an ad-free experience. That's fine and I think pretty much everyone was OK with that, but no one had any idea that this is what would happen.

And I can only speak for myself (but I have a feeling i'm not alone in this is), but something that annoys me about it is the lack of communication. We weren't even told the name change option would be gone, we weren't told that we'd never get the player forums we voted for 6 months ago, we weren't really told about the changes in ads, or even changes in administration so we'd know who to contact directly with specific concerns. I'm hoping that now that the holidays are over, these concerns will at least be addressed, since there was little to no communication all along.

[RickDaStick]

So looks like MTF is screwing people over again. What a suprise!! NOT

[savesthedizzle]

Originally Posted by Deboogle!.

Oh, really? Were these things on the list before? I didn't know that. Does anyone remember what was there when they paid? I mean, in a sense it doesn't matter I think we all agree that it's crappy either way, even if those things were never explicitly promised, everyone knew they existed and paid because of it. I bet if we took a poll, no one paid for the bigger av or custom headline or more PM space. And either way, one would hope they care enough about those who have actually bothered to pay. I mean, they very clearly stated it would not be an ad-free experience. That's fine and I think pretty much everyone was OK with that, but no one had any idea that this is what would happen.

And I can only speak for myself (but I have a feeling i'm not alone in this is), but something that annoys me about it is the lack of communication. We weren't even told the name change option would be gone, we weren't told that we'd never get the player forums we voted for 6 months ago, we weren't really told about the changes in ads, or even changes in administration so we'd know who to contact directly with specific concerns. I'm hoping that now that the holidays are over, these concerns will at least be addressed, since there was little to no communication all along.

Well Deb, I think a lot of the people who are mad are those who signed up for Lifetime Premium Membership the first time it was offered when it DID offer an ad-free experience

But yes, lack of communication is never a good thing.